Kevin shares goals and inspirations that have come out of his conference in Mexico. John is facing a new challenge of bringing the business into Canada. They discuss how to manage other hobbies when you have young families and running a business.

John and Kevin are a couple of Dads who are figuring out how to be both successful business owners as well as successful fathers and spouses.

John talks about redefining his new customer processes, and Kevin talks about his goals for optimizing his website. Then they both share their experiences with budgeting - both personal and professional. It's easy to be motivated to budget when times are tough, but hard when things are fine and dandy. John talks about the importance of forecasting - especially when revenue is not consistent month-to-month. John and Kevin are a couple of Dads who are figuring out how to be both successful business owners as well as successful fathers and spouses.

John and Kevin are a couple of Dads who are figuring out how to be both successful business owners as well as successful fathers and spouses. In this episode, we discuss how important customer development is to any dad-founder ready to start a SAAS or any other type of entrepreneurial endeavor.

John and Kevin talk about life before becoming entrepreneurs. How they decided to start. Kevin talks about quitting the corporate gig. John talks about finding a path through freelancing.