Authors Daisy Johnson (Fen, Everything Under) and Kiran Milwood Hargrave (The Girl Of Ink and Stars, The Deathless Girls) join Joe Haddow for the first Book Off! of Series four. They talk about being on the other side of a book prize (as judges) their love well-written sex and just how much they trust each others' advice.

In the first Book Off of Series 4, we see Jeanette Winterson's "Frankisstein" be put up against Leanora Carrington's "The Hearing Trumpet" - but who will take the crown?

They also discuss judging the BBC National Short Story Award, with Cambridge University, and the brilliant new writing talent that is coming through.

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