This Is Where the Serpent Lives by Pulitzer Prize finalist Daniyal Mueenuddin is a carefully woven story of survival and community. Daniyal joins us to talk about innovative writing, ambition, class, time, power, Pakistan and more with host Miwa Messer.

This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang.

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Featured Books (Episode): This Is Where the Serpent Lives by Daniyal Mueenuddin In Other Rooms, Other Wonders by Daniyal Mueenuddin War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy Wartime Lies by Louis Begley A Sport and a Pastime by James Salter Solo Faces by James Salter