Ginelle Testa sought connection in chat rooms as a kid, which led her to webcam for coins and validation. Nancy Jo Sales was "very sexualized" in childhood, too, then experienced common and related challenges while using dating apps as a middle-aged woman.

Both women wrote powerful memoirs about their experiences – Ginelle's with addiction and seeking belonging; Nancy Jo's with online dating. And they both have a lot to say about self-acceptance, cultivating healthy relationships and pleasure - in and outside of the bedroom.

Nancy Jo's story was originally released in a 2021 episode.

This episode touches on sensitive topics, such as abuse and eating disorders. Please take care of yourself while listening.

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