The boys are in Chicago and podcasting from the iconic Wieners Circle!

We briefly discuss our whirlwind day in Chicago before being joined by our friend Abby Pucker. Abby previews this coming Chicago Exhibition Weekend, as well as her role in founding GERTIE, a civic and cultural agency that aims to expand Chicago's creative economy.

Abby comes from a long line of innovative cultural philanthropists and she has a thoughtful, grass-roots fueled take on how art and culture can inform the transformation of cities for all residents. Also she is super fun.