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Distributors often look to direct-to-consumer giants for website inspiration, but B2B buyers have fundamentally different needs. They are not shopping for entertainment: they are doing a job. Kyler Nixon sits down with Tari Elkin from Restek Corporation to break down exactly how to convert busy lab managers into loyal customers.
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The secret is not adding more features: it is removing the barriers that stop the sale. Tari explains why Restek moves past vanity metrics to focus on pure utility. She shares a specific case study in which shifting the burden of account verification from the customer to the internal team led to a 40% increase in conversion rates. Kyler and Tari also discuss the critical role of accurate product data in preventing costly downtime for clients and how to prepare your digital infrastructure for the upcoming shift toward "Answer Engine Optimization."
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👤 Guest BioTari Elkin helps lead the digital experience at Restek Corporation, an employee-owned developer and manufacturer of chromatography products based in Bellefonte, Pennsylvania. With a background in research at Oregon State University, Tari bridges the gap between technical scientific needs and seamless e-commerce experiences. She focuses on data-driven enhancements that simplify procurement for lab managers and scientists worldwide.
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🔗 Resources MentionedMost entrepreneurs believe the distribution market is a "solved game" dominated by giants like McKesson and Medline. Kevin Finley disagrees. In less than five months, he launched Keystone Supply Group and is already profitable by doing exactly what the legacy players refuse to do. This episode is a masterclass in supply chain resilience and aggressive, scrappy sales tactics for new distributors.
Kevin reveals how he leverages public government data to build prospect lists from zero and why he purposefully avoids net-30 terms to secure unbeatable pricing. He explains the critical role of "secondary distributors" when Tier 1 supply chains break down, citing the recent Baxter manufacturing crisis as a prime example. If you believe the market is too crowded for a new player, this conversation proves that agility, cash flow, and direct manufacturer relationships still beat massive scale.
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About the Guest: Kevin FinleyKevin Finley is the Founder and CEO of Keystone Supply Group, a rapidly growing distribution firm based in Wayzata, Minnesota. With a background forged in the high-stakes pressure of COVID-19 procurement, Kevin specializes in bypassing traditional supply chain bottlenecks to serve healthcare and industrial clients directly. He champions a "Partner in Preparedness" philosophy, emphasizing transparency, speed, and the elimination of unnecessary intermediaries to deliver essential supplies when Tier 1 distributors fail.
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Resources & MentionsB2B distribution marketing is changing fast. The old playbook of sending a catalog once a year and waiting for the phone to ring is dead. Today's business buyers are consumers first. They check texts between meetings. They listen to podcasts on their commute. They doom-scroll TikTok.
In this episode, Kyler sits down with Damien Garber from Groomer’s Choice Pet Products to break down how a legacy distributor is aggressively pivoting to digital channels. Damien reveals why they didn't just start a podcast: they acquired an audience instead. He also shares the data behind their massive success with SMS marketing and why asking for a phone number on your website might not be as scary as you think.
If you want to modernize your marketing mix without alienating your core customers, this conversation is the blueprint.
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About Damien GarberDamien Garber is the Sales & Marketing Manager at Groomer’s Choice Pet Products, a family-owned manufacturer and distributor based in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Since joining the team, Damien has helped steer the company's commercial strategy, overseeing marketing initiatives and customer experience for independent salon owners. He plays a central role in the company's growth, including the recent 2025 acquisition of Showseason® Animal Products. Damien focuses on equipping professional groomers with the education and tools they need to run profitable businesses.
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3 Ways Groomer's Choice is Winning Attention1. The "Acquire, Don't Build" Podcast StrategyMost companies try to start a podcast from scratch. Groomer’s Choice took a smarter route. They partnered with Joe Zello, an existing industry influencer with a 40-year track record. By bringing the "Hey Joe" podcast under their umbrella, they instantly tapped into a loyal audience.
The result: The email announcing new episodes has a 40% open rate. It replaced their generic "welcome" sequences and now serves as a high-value top-of-funnel entry point.
2. SMS Marketing for B2BThere is a myth that texting is only for B2C brands. Damien proves that wrong. Groomer’s Choice uses SMS for abandoned carts, re-engagement, and flash sales. Because groomers are often on their feet working with animals, they respond to texts faster than to emails.
The data: Open rates are as high as 97% for text campaigns. It is quickly becoming a top-three revenue channel for the business.
3. The Pop-Up ExperimentConventional wisdom holds that asking for too much information on a sign-up form reduces conversion rates. Damien’s team tested this. They required a phone number alongside the email address on their site pop-ups. The result? Zero drop in opt-in rates. If customers value what you offer, they are willing to share their contact information.
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Key Moments in This EpisodeManufacturers need great distributors and great distributors need great manufacturers, especially when the line between B2B and B2C keeps blurring. On this conversation of Darn Good Distributors, host Kyler Nixon sits down with Jonathan Costa from Rex-Cut Abrasives to highlight the relationship between a manufacturer and its distribution network.
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Jonathan shares how a full scale abrasive manufacturer with around 10,000 SKUs structures a business that is roughly 90 percent distribution and 10 percent limited B2C e commerce for mom and pop shops, garage guys, and hobbyists. He talks about distributors who are committed to finding the best solution for their customer, service that feels like a first name relationship, and why education over promotion matters in the abrasive world.
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Kyler brings the distributor perspective on product data, pricing, and big contracts, and both sides talk honestly about morals, ethics, quantity limits on web stores, and why everyone has to work together for the benefit of the customer.
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👤 Guest BioJonathan Costa represents Rex-Cut Abrasives, an abrasive manufacturer that has been in business since around 1920. Jonathan describes Rex-Cut as a full scale, full service abrasive manufacturer known for cotton fiber abrasives, grinding wheels, cutoff wheels, non woven products, and high quality niche solutions for aircraft, aerospace, automotive, and other applications.
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Working with roughly 400 to 500 distributors and a smaller B2C web store, Jonathan focuses on relationships, service, education, and solving problems for end users while respecting long term distribution partnerships in both B2B and B2C settings.
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🔗 Resources MentionedAcquisition costs are up, ad costs are up, and retention is a core focus of 2026 and beyond for distributors. On Darn Good Distributors, host Kyler Nixon brings on friend of the show and business partner Jeff Felten from Forward Studios to talk about going deeper inside your existing house file and getting second, third, fourth, and fifth orders from customers you already acquired.
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They focus on warm, consent based email lists that sit in tools like MailChimp, HubSpot, or Klaviyo and walk through three ways distributors are using email to drive retention in 2026. Jeff explains why segmenting customers as inside the buying window or outside the buying window lines up with real B2B buying behavior, how to match the right message to the right person at the right time, and why simple text based emails that feel like they came from another person can quadruple conversion rates. If retention, LTV, and AOV are front of mind, this practical conversation keeps your brand top of mind for business buyers.
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👤 Guest BioJeff Felten is a friend of the show and business partner to Kyler Nixon. Together they run Forward Studios, where they help distributors leverage email marketing to improve retention, increase LTV, and increase AOV. Jeff works in the weeds with clients on warm, consent based email lists and practical campaigns so distributors can capture more high intent buyers and drive second, third, fourth, and fifth orders from customers who already purchased.
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🔗 Resources MentionedCustomer Smile Champion in a LinkedIn bio stopped Kyler Nixon while he was scrolling and turned into a practical conversation with Terry Brei, president of Sure Controls. Customer first sits as a key cultural pillar, with manufacturers literally lined down and production back up and running when components and parts arrive at the right time.
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Terry shares how autonomy, customer first, and creating smiles together shape decisions like overnight shipping, internal healthy tension between sales, finance, marketing and service, and a constant journey to meet customers where they are. From plant automation to make you smile to Sure University, internship programs, and very consultative support with web handling, thermal and fluid process control, autonomous mobile robots and micro automation, this conversation stays practical, people focused, and centered on working together as a team.
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👤 Guest BioTerry Brei serves as president at Sure Controls and proudly carries the Customer Smile Champion title in his LinkedIn bio. Customer first functions as a key cultural pillar, with Terry focused on empowering team members with autonomy to do what is best with the information they have so a customer is smiling at the end of doing business. He emphasizes creating smiles together through plant automation to make you smile, consultative service, and continual development through tools like Sure University and an internship program inside a very team oriented environment.
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🔗 Resources MentionedVery few distributors have success with a rewards program, but this one is crushing it. Kyler Nixon sits down with Jackson Orin to talk about the Reinders Rewards program and a year long loyalty program designed to keep customers engaged all year instead of dropping off after seasonal online only campaigns.
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They walk through internal conversations about e-commerce, ERP, and platform selection, the decision to give greater point value for online purchases, and the move to a digital-first rewards dashboard tied to the website. Jackson explains points managers, account credits, gift cards, surveys, testimonials, newsletter signups, job site photos, and vendor co-op campaigns with double and triple points. The conversation also hits pre-launch and post-launch marketing, goals like 40 percent points manager signups, a 120 percent increase in online order values for customers who earn points, and lessons from returns, accounting, and credit that help make the user experience as frictionless as possible.
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👤 Guest BioJackson Orin is from Reinders and works in a marketing position with a team that has pushed heavily into the e-commerce space for the last 10-plus years. He helps connect the website, rewards platform, and ERP, and works closely with sales teams, vendor partners, accounting, and credit to keep the rewards dashboard and points manager experience at the core of everything they do. Jackson brings experience with loyalty programs, online adoption, year-over-year numbers, and future plans for the rewards catalog and rewards landing page.
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🔗 Resources MentionedSupplies should be one of the easiest parts of a dental practice, not another problem on a long list of cancellations, staffing issues and insurance reimbursement. In this conversation, Kyler Nixon sits down with fellow Wisconsinite Jordan Lorenz from Green Bay to talk about what it really takes to run a dental distribution company that feels both fun and serious.
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Jordan explains how Dental City balances private label and house brand products with top manufacturers so practices can choose between infection control consumables and premium clinical materials without losing brand trust. He shares why the team chose a colorful, clean look instead of the typical sterile distributor site, and how that connects directly to a culture that is competitive, playful and focused on growth.
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From leading sales and marketing together to installing 21 robots in the warehouse, Jordan keeps coming back to the same idea: understand how people buy, keep the hurdle to purchase low, and get the boring stuff right over and over again.
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👤 Guest BioJordan Lorenz leads sales and marketing at Dental City, a privately held dental distribution company in Green Bay. He works in an environment that is both fun and competitive, with fat tire bike races, obstacle courses, full court and half court basketball, a racquetball court and a workout facility on site. Jordan focuses on helping a dental distribution business that sells dental supplies across the country keep its brand colorful, clean and different from the sterile feel that often shows up in dental and medical distribution.
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🔗 Resources MentionedA sign supply distributor with weird videos, a slightly serious podcast, and 82 straight weeks without missing. That rhythm shifts casual viewers into customers who already feel like they know the team. Hosted by Kyler Nixon, this conversation with Tyler Hull from Wesco Sign Supply walks through how consistent content, in person events, long form podcasting, and honest recommendations create real sales instead of vanity metrics. Tyler shares how post COVID trade show conversations moved into a long form format, why impressions mean nothing without quotes and orders, how customers walk into events already connected through the Slightly Serious Sign Podcast, and why showing up in more places with real faces, real teaching, and real stories still cuts through AI noise and traditional ads.
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👤 Guest BioTyler Hull is the director of marketing at Wesco Sign Supply and host of The Slightly Serious Sign Podcast. He comes from sales into marketing and focuses on long form content, in person events, and honest conversations with vendors and customers. Tyler and his team are known for weird videos, weekly podcast episodes, and a style that helps sign shops learn tips, tricks, and products while getting to know the people behind the distributor.
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🔗 Resources MentionedA 40th year in distribution brings perspective on culture, leadership, and growth. Kyler Nixon sits with Mark Knight, CEO at Fibre Glast, to talk management style, respect, and giving credit where credit is due. Mark shares early lessons like “sometimes you just need to show people who’s boss,” and why he chose assertive, direct, and supportive leadership instead. He explains servant leadership and the step beyond it he calls servantcy, where leaders and teams serve each other. The conversation moves into day one at Fibre Glast in 2021, building core values with integrity and respect as must haves, and investing in people resources. Tactically, the team prioritized phone systems, CRM, and a risk-mitigating web replatform without breaking what customers love. Growth remains balanced, profitable, and sustainable, with high barriers to entry and a differentiated value proposition, including AS 91 20 B aerospace certification driven by customer feedback.
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👤 Guest BioMark Knight is the CEO at Fibre Glast. His 40th year in distribution includes roles across industrial management, operations, and supply chain, growing into marketing and general management. He has led in large publicly traded industrial businesses and small privately held organizations. Mark stepped into Fibre Glast in 2021, created a set of core values with integrity and respect as must haves, and emphasizes servant leadership, conservancy, and building a healthy, supportive culture.
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