...and why Laz thinks htmx is here to stay.

A wide-ranging conversation with the creator of the real-time hypermedia framework Datastar Delaney Gillilan.

1.0 launches with a full rewrite, a new website, and a non-profit foundation.

* What is datastar?
* What's different in 1.0?
* Why datastar got rid of all dependencies
* Going bigger and planning for the future
* Web devs can learn a thing or two from game devs
* Is SSE going to have its 'moment'?
* Lazarus on why htmx is here to stay
* Taking on Tailwind CSS (Stellar)
* Rethinking web components (Rocket)
* Utilizing UDP (Darkstar)

================ GENERAL LINKS ===============
Datastar: https://data-star.dev
Delaney Gillilan on X:https://x.com/delaneygillilan
The Datastar Podcast channel (w Ben & Delaney): https://www.youtube.com/@data-star

==============  REFERENCED VIDEOS ============
Our first conversation (2024):
Hypermedia at 144fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbTFlUqELVc

00:23 V1 and Beyond (The journey to Datastar 1.0 blog post)
https://data-star.dev/essays/v1_and_beyond

03:18 Anthony Alaribe
You can’t build interactive web apps except as SPA (and other myths) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVKSmR_hBMs&t=9142s

03:58 Sam SelikoffHigh Floor, High Ceiling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVKSmR_hBMs&t=5693s

01:11:21 Daniel Colbourne - Put Verbs in your database - Event Sourcing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mb2L97Yq88

2:26:20 Ben Croker Bug fix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbaGOibJkc&t=1051s

============= CHAPTERS (from AI) ==========
00:00 The Journey to DataStar 1.0
02:57 Hypermedia and Modern Web Features
05:46 Understanding DataStar's Philosophy
08:42 The Core Concept of DataStar
11:17 Embracing Server-Sent Events (SSE)
14:13 The Evolution of DataStar's Signals
17:04 DataStar's Rewrite and New Features
20:03 Comparing DataStar with Other Tools
22:41 The Future of DataStar and SDKs
28:22 Community Building and SDK Evolution
29:55 Dependency Management and Performance Optimization
32:40 Testing and Metrics in Development
35:06 The Importance of Size and Speed
38:06 Plugins and Core Functionality
42:31 Version 1 Launch and Nonprofit Structure
45:20 Introducing Rocket and Stellar
54:45 The Evolution of CSS and Semantic HTML
59:32 Introducing Darkstar: A New Era for Web Development
01:04:12 Event Sourcing and Real-Time Collaboration
01:08:15 The Future of Hypermedia and DataStar vs HTMX
01:26:44 The Limitations of Polling and State Management
01:33:12 Comparing DataStar and HTMX: A Functional API Discussion
01:38:18 The Future of Frameworks: DataStar vs. HTMX
01:43:35 Hypermedia as the Future of Web Development
01:50:39 The Journey of Open Source Development
01:54:21 Embracing Collaboration and Innovation
01:56:51 The Challenge of Popularity and Engagement
01:59:09 Navigating the Landscape of Hypermedia
02:03:17 Building a Community and Onboarding
02:07:24 Understanding Preferences in Development
02:12:04 The Future of SSE and Hypermedia