Java remains one of the most popular and trusted programming languages, but it is not necessarily well-suited for everything, including cloud native and containerized applications.

While Java’s elegance and versatility is reflected in how it can be written once and run practically anywhere, the language was geared mainly for creating application stacks decades ago when it was first created. Cloud native and Kubernetes, of course, are different animals compared to the stacks of decades past.

In other words, Java is not Golang for Kubernetes. And yet…

Frameworks will likely serve as the solution to Java’s Kubernetes dilemma. In this edition of The New Stack Makers podcast, DataStax’s Alice Lottini, Vanguard architect, and Christopher Splinter, senior product manager, open source, discuss how frameworks can allow Java to still work for creating applications that run better in cloud native environments and how they represent a new identity for the 25-year-old programming language. Alex Williams, founder and publisher of The New Stack, hosted this episode.