Steve Moore interviews Assistant Secretary David Barker to discuss a conservative overhaul of the American higher education system under the Trump administration. The conversation centers on the "scam" of rising costs, revealing that federal lending has historically functioned like a dog chasing its tail, where increased aid only triggers higher tuition rates. To combat this, Barker highlights new federal loan caps and accountability measures designed to stop funding programs that leave graduates earning less than high school peers. Beyond finances, the duo critiques the proliferation of radical ideologies and celebrates the successful pressure placed on accreditors to eliminate DEI requirements. 

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