French horn player David Cooper joins host David Cooper today (yes, it's confusing, we know). The musician discusses his upcoming departure from the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. Both Davids delve into failures and the loss of labels while trying to focus on creative work. David, the French horn player, reflects on his recently completed teaching stint and reveals a few potential career opportunities he's contemplating. The two engage in a conversation about resilience and bravery. (The host manages to slip in his favorite quote from The Bhagavad Gita once again.) The Davids share their thoughts on what it truly means to be unstoppable – drawing inspiration from a French horn teacher and the wise words of Rick Moranis. The show ends with the Davids professing their love for one another.

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