Norm chats with David Scheer, a long-time pro in healthcare and employer health plan implementation and management, an analytical mastermind and conversational gem. As a senior consultant at Willis Towers Watson, David spends his days helping enormous employers untangle the financial and strategic mess of providing health benefits to tens of thousands of workers, and he makes the whole thing genuinely fun to listen to. He and Norm get into why healthcare costs are climbing faster than they have in twenty years, what the Affordable Care Act really did, why the lapse of expanded subsidies is about to hit everyone in the wallet, and the curious tale of how his firm quietly bought naming rights to the Sears Tower. Off the clock, David talks scuba diving, his ever-growing Brooklyn wine fridge, the perfect fish taco, and life as kid brother to RFR's own producer extraordinaire Jen Hammoud.

Produced by Norm Magnusson, Jennifer Hammoud, and Matty Rosenberg @ radiofreerhinecliff.org

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