Dawna Kaufmann joined me to discuss writing jokes for JFK, Khruschev, and Phyllis Diller as a child; JFK assassination; working for Don Kirschner's Rock Concert; her stage roles in the late 60's / early 70's; working on game shows for Allen Ludden & Grant Tinker; writing for Weekend Update; being the impetus for Phil Hartman's Anal Retentive Chef; Herb Sargent; Chris Farley being scared to "fly" as Bennett Brauer; Matt Foley; jumping to the Chevy Chase show; being told by Chevy that women can't be comedy writers and subsequently fired; Dean Martin; her crime book Final Exam; how OJ switched her career to true crime; Mad TV; Artie Lange; appearing as a regular on Wall George's Hot Seat; writing for the WWF; Menendez Brothers; don't believe Netflix documentaries; RFK and JFK assassinations; Bib Netanyahu's speech; Carol Wayne; still watching late night monologues; Kirk Douglas; possible Trump abortions; Dick Van Dyke; Carol Burnett; Bill Cosby; her and Chris Rock telling Adam Sandler about it in 1993; Epstein's two sides; Dennis Hastert; Lindsay Graham; crime and comedy; Charlie Chaplin; Alec Baldwin; still watching SNL and loving Dana Carvey