Deans Counsel

A podcast for deans and academic leadership.

DEANS COUNSEL

James Ellis | Moderator | Dean of the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California (2007-2019)

David Ikenberry | Moderator | Dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado-Boulder (2011-2016)

Ken Kring | Moderator | Co-Managing Director, Global Education Practice and Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry

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EPISODE 18: Dan LeClair (GBSN) on How the Rules for "Deaning" Have Changed

On this episode of Deans Counsel, moderators Jim Ellis and Dave Ikenberry speak with Dan LeClair, Ph.D, CEO of the Global Business School Network (GBSN). Prior to GBSN, Dan was an Executive Vice President at AACSB International, an association and accrediting organization that serves some 1,600 business schools in more than 100 countries. His experience at AACSB includes two and half years as Chief Strategy and Innovation Officer, seven years as Chief Operating Officer, and five years as Chief Knowledge Officer.

The author of over 80 research reports, articles, and blogs, Dan is widely recognized as a thought leader in management education. 

In his conversation with Jim and Dave, Dan talks about the evolution of the business school Dean's role, and what's required in that position today, including:

• Going beyond internal measures of success.

• Striving for true, societal impact.

• The increasing freedom deans have to define success.

• How Deans should focus more broadly on cross campus and external relations, even globally. 

• Why the future is less about the individual B school and more about cross campus collaborations.  

Learn more about Dan LeClair

Comments/criticism/suggestions/feedback? We'd love to hear it. Drop us a note at [email protected]

Thanks for listening.

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Produced by Joel Davis at Analog Digital Arts

A podcast for deans and academic leadership.

DEANS COUNSEL

James Ellis | Moderator | Dean of the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California (2007-2019)

David Ikenberry | Moderator | Dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado-Boulder (2011-2016)

Ken Kring | Moderator | Co-Managing Director, Global Education Practice and Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry

DeansCounsel.com

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EPISODE 17: Saby Mitra (Florida) on Applications for Online Education

On this episode of Deans Counsel, moderators Jim Ellis and Ken Kring speak with Saby Mitra, Dean of the Warrington College of Business at the University of Florida. Prior to that, he served as senior associate dean of faculty and research and Thomas R. Williams – Wells Fargo professor at the Georgia Institute of Technology Scheller College of Business.

Saby's expertise lies in the areas of information systems management and innovation, and is at the forefront of AI utilization efforts at Warrington.

In his conversation with Jim and Ken, Saby talks about what he learned over 27 years at Georgia Tech, and how that's helping him in his role at Florida. Topics include:

• Embracing AI and Data Analytics 

• Leveraging AI & Analytics education throughout the curriculum 

• Using on-line to address new markets but also enhance residential programs 

• Leveraging different on-line models to address different markets 

• The growing need to provide students on-line support outside the classroom 

Learn more about Saby Mitra: https://warrington.ufl.edu/about/dean/

Comments/criticism/suggestions/feedback? We'd love to hear it. Drop us a note at [email protected]

Thanks for listening.

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Produced by Joel Davis at Analog Digital Arts

A podcast for deans and academic leadership.

DEANS COUNSEL

James Ellis | Moderator | Dean of the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California (2007-2019)

David Ikenberry | Moderator | Dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado-Boulder (2011-2016)

Ken Kring | Moderator | Co-Managing Director, Global Education Practice and Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry

DeansCounsel.com

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EPISODE 16: Alex Triantis (Johns Hopkins) on Leading a Business School Startup

On this episode of Deans Counsel, moderators Jim Ellis and Ken Kring speak with Alex Triantis, Dean of the Johns Hopkins University Carey Business School. He's an expert in the areas of corporate financial strategy and valuation

In his conversation with Jim and Ken, Alex talks about the challenges he's faced as just the third dean of the Johns Hopkins Carey School of Business, among them:

•Leading a very young business school at a well-established institution 

•Planning for and managing dual degree programs 

•Anticipating unintended consequences from an interdisciplinary structure 

•Gaining buy-in from all constituents on launching new programs 

•Reflections on rankings while having an interdisciplinary focus 

Learn more about Alex Triantis.

Comments/criticism/suggestions/feedback? We'd love to hear it. Drop us a note at [email protected]

Thanks for listening.

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Produced by Joel Davis at Analog Digital Arts

A podcast for deans and academic leadership.

DEANS COUNSEL

James Ellis | Moderator | Dean of the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California (2007-2019)

David Ikenberry | Moderator | Dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado-Boulder (2011-2016)

Ken Kring | Moderator | Co-Managing Director, Global Education Practice and Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry

DeansCounsel.com

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EPISODE 15: Rich Lyons (UC-Berkeley) on Shaping Culture 

On this episode of Deans Counsel, moderators Dave Ikenberry and Ken Kring speak with Richard (Rich) Lyons, Associate Vice Chancellor for Innovation & Entrepreneurship, UC Berkeley, and Professor & Former Dean, William & Janet Cronk Chair in Innovative Leadership. He specializes in Economic Analysis and Policy.

In his conversation with Dave and Ken, Rich shares his unique expertise and insights on shaping the culture at UC-Berkeley, and touches upon:

•defining what's unique about a school's culture

•dealing authentically with skeptical faculty

•using faculty governance to drive change, and

•how to measure progress on shaping a school's culture

Learn more about Rich Lyons.

Comments/criticism/suggestions/feedback? We'd love to hear it. Drop us a note at [email protected]

Thanks for listening.

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Produced by Joel Davis at Analog Digital Arts

A podcast for deans and academic leadership.

DEANS COUNSEL

James Ellis | Moderator | Dean of the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California (2007-2019)

David Ikenberry | Moderator | Dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado-Boulder (2011-2016)

Ken Kring | Moderator | Co-Managing Director, Global Education Practice and Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry

DeansCounsel.com

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EPISODE 14: David Blackwell (Kentucky) on Transitioning from Dean to Provost 

On this episode of Deans Counsel, moderators Dave Ikenberry and Ken Kring speak with David Blackwell, Associate Dean for Professional Graduate Programs and Professor of Finance, Gatton College of Business and Economics at University of Kentucky. He previously served as the Provost and Chief Academic Officer of the University of Kentucky from 2018-2021, overseeing a budget of over $1 billion; enrollment of 31,000 students; 3,000 faculty members and 5,000 staff members.

In his conversation with Dave and Ken, David shares his perspective on transitioning from Dean to Provost (and, now, back again). We'll also gain his insights on a number of topics and ideas including: 

•the natural advantages of a business school dean transitioning to provost 

•contrasting the "inside vs outside" nature of the provost/dean role 

•the impact of athletics on academics 

•answering the question of whether deans need to be a provost before becoming a president  

•helpful advice to new deans 

Learn more about David Blackwell: https://gatton.uky.edu/faculty-research/faculty/blackwell-david

Comments/criticism/suggestions/feedback? We'd love to hear it. Drop us a note at [email protected]

Thanks for listening.

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Produced by Joel Davis at Analog Digital Arts

A podcast for deans and academic leadership.

DEANS COUNSEL

James Ellis | Moderator | Dean of the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California (2007-2019)

David Ikenberry | Moderator | Dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado-Boulder (2011-2016)

Ken Kring | Moderator | Co-Managing Director, Global Education Practice and Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry

DeansCounsel.com

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EPISODE 13: Erika James (Pennsylania) on Leadership Through Team Building

On this episode of Deans Counsel, moderators Jim Ellis and Ken Kring speak with Erika James, dean since 2020 and Reliance Professor of Management and Private Enterprise Professor of Management at the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania. Trained as an organizational psychologist, Dean James is a leading expert on crisis leadership, workplace diversity and management strategy.

In this conversation, Jim and Ken learn from Erika about what it takes to build effective, trusting teams. Major factors in that equation include:

•Building trust in the dean 

•Hiring effective team members 

•Dealing with the fallout of termination decisions 

•The need to monitor the pace of team progress 

•Approaches to nudging faculty into key leadership roles 

•The shifting landscape on DEI, social justice and ESG  

Learn more about Erika James.

Comments/criticism/suggestions/feedback? We'd love to hear it. Drop us a note at [email protected]

Thanks for listening.

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Produced by Joel Davis at Analog Digital Arts

A podcast for deans and academic leadership.

DEANS COUNSEL

James Ellis | Moderator | Dean of the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California (2007-2019)

David Ikenberry | Moderator | Dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado-Boulder (2011-2016)

Ken Kring | Moderator | Co-Managing Director, Global Education Practice and Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry

DeansCounsel.com

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EPISODE 12: Jeff Brown (Illinois) on Driving Radical Curricular Change

On this episode of Deans Counsel, moderators Dave Ikenberry and Ken Kring speak with Jeff Brown, dean since 2015 and Dean and Josef and Margot Lakonishok Professor of Business at the Gies College of Business at University of Illinois - Urbana-Chammpaign. A professor in the department of Finance, Dean Brown holds a PhD in economics from MIT, a master’s of public policy from Harvard, and a bachelor’s in economics and political science from Miami (OH) University. 

In this conversation, Jeff relates to Dave and Ken how becoming dean allowed him to make a long-held entrepreneurial dream real. In so doing, he learned a lot about:

•Exploiting a niche for those perceiving a decline in the MBA value proposition 

•Anticipating in advance issues from scale 

•Effective leadership approaches with faculty in large transformations 

•Working with campus politics

•Business school rankings and the iMBA  

Learn more about Jeff Brown.

Comments/criticism/suggestions/feedback? We'd love to hear it. Drop us a note at [email protected]

Thanks for listening.

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Produced by Joel Davis at Analog Digital Arts

A podcast for deans and academic leadership.

DEANS COUNSEL

James Ellis | Moderator | Dean of the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California (2007-2019)

David Ikenberry | Moderator | Dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado-Boulder (2011-2016)

Ken Kring | Moderator | Co-Managing Director, Global Education Practice and Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry

DeansCounsel.com

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EPISODE 11: Mitzi Montoya (Utah) on The Complex Issue of Salary Equity

On this episode of Deans Counsel, moderators Jim Ellis and Ken Kring speak with Mitzi Montoya, provost and Senior Vice President for Academic Affairs at the University of Utah -- a position to which she was appointed in January 2023. At the time of this interview, Mitzi was dean of the Anderson School of Management at the University of New Mexico.

In this conversation, Mitzi relates in great detail how she established salary equity at Anderson, touching on key points such as:

•The importance of data, structure and transparency in resetting salary equity 

•Her clever use of a living “white paper” to engage the entire college and address grievances/concerns 

•Gaining consensus for this change both inside the college and with the provost

•Identifying the financing model for recurring support 

•Selling the benefits of an equitable pay structure 

•Defining objective standards for research 

•Setting baseline expectations in all areas of research, teaching and service to be eligible for merit pay. 

Learn more about Mitzi Montoya.

Comments/criticism/suggestions/feedback? We'd love to hear it. Drop us a note at [email protected]

Thanks for listening.

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Produced by Joel Davis at Analog Digital Arts

A podcast for deans and academic leadership.

DEANS COUNSEL

James Ellis | Moderator | Dean of the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California (2007-2019)

David Ikenberry | Moderator | Dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado-Boulder (2011-2016)

Ken Kring | Moderator | Co-Managing Director, Global Education Practice and Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry

DeansCounsel.com

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EPISODE 10: Frank Hodge (Washington) on Constructing a State of the Art Business School

On this episode of Deans Counsel, moderators Jim Ellis and Dave Ikenberry speak with Frank Hodge, a Professor of Accounting and the Orin and Janet Smith Dean of the Foster School of Business at the University of Washington.  

In this conversation, Frank walks Jim and Dave through the process of building a business school, covering:

• How to choose an architect

• Building a building as a living organism

• The importance of creating a purpose statement

• The power of building not just a building, but a community

Learn more about Frank Hodge.

Comments/criticism/suggestions/feedback? We'd love to hear it. Drop us a note at [email protected]

Thanks for listening.

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Produced by Joel Davis at Analog Digital Arts

A podcast for deans and academic leadership.

DEANS COUNSEL

James Ellis | Moderator | Dean of the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California (2007-2019)

David Ikenberry | Moderator | Dean of the Leeds School of Business at the University of Colorado-Boulder (2011-2016)

Ken Kring | Moderator | Co-Managing Director, Global Education Practice and Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry

DeansCounsel.com

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EPISODE 09: Caryn Beck-Dudley (AACSB International) on Shifting Expectations for Business Schools

On this episode of Deans Counsel, moderators Jim Ellis and Ken Kring speak with Caryn Beck Dudley, CEO of the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business (AACSB). 

A former attorney in commercial and corporate law, Caryn entered the academic world and went on to become Dean at the Jon M. Huntsman School of Business at Utah State University, the College of Business at Florida State University, and then the Leavey School of Business at Santa Clara University, before moving into the roll of CEO and President of AACSB in 2020.

In her conversation with Jim and Ken, Caryn addresses a wide range of subjects including:

• How AACSB provides value to business schools

• Leading the organization through a time of fiscal and strategic stress 

• How AACSB supports schools' transformations into more comprehensive paradigms 

• AACSB’s shift toward measuring “societal impact” 

• Trends in teaching expectations in the modern era and the business school’s value-add 

• Improving the accreditation process and the value of the information 

• How to best take advantage of AACSB’s services 

Learn more about Cary L. Beck-Dudley: https://www.aacsb.edu/about-us/get-to-know-us/leadership/caryn-beck-dudley

Comments/criticism/suggestions/feedback? We'd love to hear it. Drop us a note at [email protected]

Thanks for listening.

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Produced by Joel Davis at Analog Digital Arts