Death Panel

As we send off 2023, we’re releasing a series of some of our favorite episodes of the year—including some newly unlocked episodes that have previously only been available to patrons. This episode was originally released for Death Panel patrons on October 30th, 2023, and is being unlocked today for the first time. To support the show and help make episodes like this one possible, become a patron at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod.

Original description: Beatrice and Abby speak with epidemiologist Ellie Murray about how the many arguments against masking tend to repeat the same set of misunderstandings about how population health works and who health interventions are for. We also discuss why universal masking is so effective, the issues with dropping mask mandates in healthcare settings in particular, and how dynamics within the field of public health left space open for the social production of the ‘end’ of the pandemic.

Find Ellie's study "Lifting Universal Masking in Schools — Covid-19 Incidence among Students and Staff" here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2211029

Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

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https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/733966/a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny-by-jules-gill-peterson/

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As we send off 2023, we’re releasing a series of some of our favorite episodes of the year—including some newly unlocked episodes that have previously only been available to patrons. This episode was originally released for Death Panel patrons on February 27th, 2023. To support the show and help make episodes like this one possible, become a patron at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod.

Original description: Bea and Abby speak with Adia Benton about how neoliberalism constrains what public health interventions are considered possible while simultaneously expanding what political issues can be depoliticized as simply a "public health issue." We also look at some of Adia's statements from early in the pandemic on the role of austerity in shaping the covid response, and discuss how development and NGO work shapes the political economy of health.

Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

Pre-order Jules' new book here:

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/733966/a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny-by-jules-gill-peterson/

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As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod

As we send off 2023, we’re releasing a series of some of our favorite episodes of the year—including some newly unlocked episodes that have previously only been available to patrons.

This episode was originally released for Death Panel patrons on February 20th, 2023. To support the show and help make episodes like this one possible, become a patron at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod.

Original description: Bea and Jules speak with Vicky Osterweil about the recent open letter to the New York Times critical of apparent bias in paper's reporting on trans people.

In the first half, we get into the letter, the coverage that provoked it, and the Times' dismal response to the criticism so far. In the second half, we get into the conceptual problems with the coverage and some of the deeper issues in the liberal "just asking questions" framework.

Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

Pre-order Jules' new book here:

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/733966/a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny-by-jules-gill-peterson/

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In this episode we reference some of the following previous episodes that touched on this topic at length:

Our episode with Jules (back when Jules was a guest!) on the problems with Emily Bazelon's article from last year, can be found here: https://soundcloud.com/deathpanel/panic-at-the-gender-clinic-w-jules-gill-peterson-and-charlie-markbreiter-062322

Our episode with Beans Velocci can be found here: https://soundcloud.com/deathpanel/standards-of-care-w-beans-velocci-080422

Our episode from last year on the court ruling re: the ADA and gender dysphoria can be found here: https://soundcloud.com/deathpanel/in-taxonomy-we-trust-091522

As we send off 2023, we’re releasing a series of some of our favorite episodes of the year—including some newly unlocked episodes that have previously only been available to patrons.

This episode was originally released for Death Panel patrons on April 3rd, 2023. To support the show and help make episodes like this one possible, become a patron at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod.

Original description: Bea speaks with Kathryn Olivarius about the economy and social structure that emerged around yellow fever in antebellum New Orleans, and the ecosystem of deniers, capitalists, and novel theories of "immunity" that echo our current pandemic.

Transcript forthcoming.

Find Kathryn's book "Necropolis: Disease, Power, and Capitalism in the Cotton Kingdom" here: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674241053

Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

Pre-order Jules' new book here:

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/733966/a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny-by-jules-gill-peterson/

Death Panel merch here (patrons get a discount code): www.deathpanel.net/merch

As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod

This episode was originally released for Death Panel patrons on December 12th 2023. To support the show and help make episodes like this one possible, become a patron at https://www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod

We take a look back at the last year of major social and political developments that worked to normalize covid in 2023.

Full Transcript: https://www.deathpanel.net/transcripts/covid-year-four

Timecodes:

00:05:30 — Introduction

00:11:53 — Part One: Fall/Winter 2022

00:39:27 — Part Two: 2023, Before the end of the Public Health Emergency (May 11)

01:45:53 — X-Files

02:02:57 — Part Three: 2023, After the end of the Public Health Emergency

03:05:14 — Discussion

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Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

Pre-order Jules' new book here:

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/733966/a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny-by-jules-gill-peterson/

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Beatrice and Abby speak with Robert Chapman about their new book, Empire of Normality: Neurodiversity and Capitalism, and discuss the close relationship between the fields of statistics and eugenics through five thinkers—Adolphe Quetelet, Francis Galton, Karl Pearson, Ronald Fisher, and Thomas Szasz—whose ideas continue to influence how the state manages neurodiversity and disability.

Get Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

Runtime 1:38:47, 18 December 2023

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Beatrice, Abby, and Phil discuss how A.I. tools are used to lend a veneer of objectivity to medical rationing, and how tools like “Gospel” A.I. and UnitedHealth’s “nH Predict” are used to obscure inherently moral, political, and ideological actions.

Transcript forthcoming.

Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

Pre-order Jules' new book here:

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/733966/a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny-by-jules-gill-peterson/

Death Panel merch here (patrons get a discount code): www.deathpanel.net/merch

As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod

Referenced in this episode:

Osama Tanous, "You, as of Now, Are Someone Else!" — https://www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/1653909

"Who Shall Live?" (1965) — https://youtu.be/FMay5zw1loA?si=U49FoeGxe_CmIbrp

LIFE Magazine article — https://bit.ly/48dDGte

Subscribe on Patreon and hear this week's full patron-exclusive episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/94486770

We take a look back at the last year of major social and political developments that worked to normalize covid in 2023.

A full transcript of this episode, including links to almost everything referenced, is also now live on our patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/94486514

Get Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

Runtime 03:31:05, 12 December 2023

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As we prepare to record "Covid Year Four," Beatrice, Artie, and Abby discuss what is left of national covid data following the end of the public health emergency, how what's left has become so thoroughly abstracted, and how the CDC prioritizes representing deaths as an abstract percentage even as the official death count has been over 1,000 a week since August.

Transcript: www.deathpanel.net/transcripts/economic-endemicity-blue

Find the NVSS data sheet mentioned early in the episode here: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

Pre-order Jules' new book here:

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/733966/a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny-by-jules-gill-peterson/

Death Panel merch here (patrons get a discount code): www.deathpanel.net/merch

As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod

Subscribe on Patreon and hear this week's full patron-exclusive episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/94076448

Beatrice speaks with Astra Taylor about how the capitalist state constructs and reproduces insecurity, the eugenic logic of austerity, and Astra's new book The Age of Insecurity: Coming Together as Things Fall Apart.

Get Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

Runtime 1:34:10, 4 December 2023

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