In 2016, the idea of ‘deaths of despair’ went from a social science term to a much more widespread one as the forgotten man (and woman) played an integral part in electing President Trump.

How are things now, and what comes next? The authors of 2020’s Deaths of Despair and the Future of Capitalism, Angus Deaton and Anne Case joined me on this episode to talk about this problem and what needs to be done about it.