In this episode, Olivia and Ken discuss the upcoming presidential debate and the current political landscape. They express their frustration with the choices in the election and the strong loyalty some people have towards Trump. They also touch on the recent primaries in New York and the influence of special interest groups. The conversation then shifts to the potential vice presidential debate and the possibility of Trump walking off the stage during the presidential debate. They discuss the importance of strategic voting and the need for change in Congress. The episode concludes with speculation about the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity and the potential outcomes of the debate.