The Simple Heart w/ Wayne Hsiung

Debating Sexual Misconduct, “Extremism,” and Purity Politics in Animal Rights (with Vegan Gains) (Ep. 67)


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I confront Vegan Gains on his “problematic” views. It goes ok. Sort of.

Follow Vegan Gains:

https://www.patreon.com/vegangains

https://www.instagram.com/vegangains.real/

https://www.youtube.com/@VeganGains

https://www.facebook.com/VeganGainsOfficial

https://www.twitter.com/VeganGains

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Chapters:

Chapter 1) 00:00-11:29 Intro, Youtuber Vegan Gains: Richard Burgess, controversial views on sexual harassment/abuse & the #MeToo movement in activist movements, & specific cases

Chapter 2) 11:30-30:34 Having a broad conversation sexual harassment/abuse & the #MeToo movement, & trying to not talk about specific cases

Chapter 3) 30:35-35:15 Extreme positions in activist movements

Chapter 4) 35:16-46:59 On the Israel/Palestine war

Chapter 5) 47:00-1:02:06 Wayne on his awkward laughter, reacting to inappropriate behavior, on power dynamics, calm assessments of evidence compared to extreme conclusions of evidence, & Richard’s interpretation of the evidence

Chapter 6) 1:02:07-1:13:43 On restorative justice, on having thoughtful conversations, where views originate

Chapter 7) 1:13:44-1:24:43 Wayne on why Richard is so interesting, & on why people react they way they do: concerns, bias, &/or conformity

Chapter 8) 1:24:44-1:37:39 On the public disruption of Wayne and Peter Singer, Richard’s controversial opinions on the way people react or don’t want to debate, & on having hard conversations

Chapter 9) 1:37:40-1:46:56 Can people have agreements after having conversations, on the empathy of human and nonhumans, & tendencies of human culture

Chapter 10) 1:46:57-1:49:58 Richard’s final thoughts, on meditation, & Gummy the cat and Oliver the dog

Chapter 11) 1:49:59-1:50:15 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis

Books Mentioned:

“Humanity: A Moral History of the Twentieth Century” by John Glover

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Glover 

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