This week’s guest has been named “one of the most creative people in business” by Fast Company, “one of the most influential designers working today” by GDUSA, and a “Woman of Influence” by Success magazine. It’s author, educator, curator and podcast pioneer, Debbie Millman. I first interviewed Debbie in 2020 as part of our pandemic-era, Virtual DesignThinkers, where we talked at length about Debbie's professional history. (If you're an RGD Member, you can access that conversation at rgd.ca.) But in this episode, we’re talking about how Debbies splits her time between hosting Design Matters, one of the first and longest running podcasts in the world; Being the chair of the first-ever Masters in Branding Program at the School of Visual Arts; Supporting PrintMag.com, where she’s a co-owner and Editorial Director; and working on her own design, art and writing projects. We discuss turning down big, shiny, professional roles, the value of growth and risk in your work, and why she believes personal branding is a misguided concept.

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