This powerful conversation explores the relationship between decolonization and consciousness. Ashanti is a systems change agent focused on helping organizations deconstruct dominant narratives of colonization and replace them with life affirming narratives that support a regenerative future. She believes that true transformation must begin within, guiding leaders to embrace spiritual coherence and walk their talk.

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Jenny and Ashanti discuss:

• How to define what is right and good
• Why the inner work is imperative
• The consequences of the narratives we have internalized
• Rethinking our understanding of leadership and power
• Taking responsibility for ourselves and what inhibits us from doing so
• The relationship between deconstructing our stories and spirituality
• The importance of walking the talk and the harm caused by misalignment
• Love as praxis: moving from fear to love
• The role of fear in white supremacy
• The Zulu concept of Ubuntu
• Loving each other through our ugly
• Love and spiritual growth
• Love, consideration, and diversity in systems change work
• Open and honest communication
• The importance of expressing emotions and creating emotionally safe spaces
• Calling out vs. calling in
• Spiritual accountability, personal integrity, and coherent leadership
• Spiritual discernment
• Paying attention to our thoughts and language
• Self-love

Resources

• Learning 2 Unlearn, Ashanti's website
• "White supremacy lives in the mundane" Ashanti on Social Transformation
• Pedagogy of the Oppressed, Paul Freire
• We Will Not Cancel Us: And Other Dreams of Transformative Justice, adrienne maree brown

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