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Jonny Cragg, professional therapist by day – and most of the time, actually – is also the drummer of the rock band, Spacehog. While the boys from Leeds scored a monster hit with "In The Meantime" in the mid '90s, they ultimately produced four critically-acclaimed albums from 1995 to 2013. Still, even MTV mega success can be fleeting, and while critics and fans understood Spacehog matched its larger-than-life spectacle with stellar musicianship, it was easy to incorrectly label the band a one-hit wonder. The group's future seemed unlikely until "Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3" breathed new life into Spacehog, introducing its best-selling record to a new generation.

In the meantime (pun intended), Cragg went on to become a licensed mental health professional, intensively trained in both Dialectical Behavioral Therapy and Radically Open Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. He operates his practice out of Oakland, California, offering concrete skills for clients who are not as comfortable with conventional talk therapy.

But in Summer 2025, Cragg picked up his drumsticks once again for Spacehog's first tour in years, a short trip up and down the West Coast – and Andy Tarnoff took the opportunity to catch up with him in Portland, Oregon. The two have been friends and worked together at OnMilwaukee a decade ago – and a pre-show dinner made for a great excuse to record a Deep Dive podcast about the similarities, and obvious differences, between professional therapist and rock band drummer on the road.

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Chapters:

00:00 A Surprising Comeback

03:06 The Intersection of Music and Mental Health

06:03 Dialectical Behavioral Therapy: A Creative Approach

09:00 Forgiveness and Acceptance in Music and Therapy

11:58 The Current State of the Music Industry

14:52 Future Possibilities for Spacehog

In this episode of Deep Dive: Wine Acoustics, hosts Andy Tarnoff and Courtney Taylor-Taylor of The Dandy Warhols, taste a Bandol wine and discuss its varietals, tasting notes, and the experience of pairing it with award-winning cheese. Courtney and Andy delve into the creative process behind music-making, discussing the evolution of their sound, the challenges of collaboration, and the intricacies of songwriting. They also explore the impact of Taylor's music on popular culture, share insights on live performances, and reflect on past albums and hits.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Wine and Cheese Pairing

03:04 Exploring the Wine Varietals

05:54 Tasting Experience and Initial Impressions

09:11 Cheese and Wine Pairing Insights

12:12 Discussion on Wine Availability and Pricing

14:56 Wine Reviews and Expert Opinions

17:59 Anecdotes from the Wine World

21:05 The Playboy Mansion Experience

24:00 Creative Projects and Musical Endeavors

27:35 Navigating Band Dynamics

29:46 The Creative Process Behind New Music

32:59 Live Performances vs. Studio Work

36:33 Wine and Music: A Perfect Pairing

41:00 Reflections on Past Albums and Hits

46:12 Songwriting Insights and Inspirations

47:57 Final Thoughts and Wine Reviews

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In this episode of Deep Dive: Wine Acoustics, Andy Tarnoff and Courtney Taylor-Taylor delve into the world of Sardinian wines, exploring the evolution of winemaking on the island and the impact of younger generations of winemakers. They share their tasting experiences of Arianna Occhipinti SP68 Rosso. They discuss the characteristics of natural wines and reflect on the stories behind the wines they enjoy. The conversation highlights the cultural significance of wine and the personal connections it fosters. In this engaging conversation, Courtney delves into the intricate connections between wine and music, exploring personal anecdotes and stories that highlight their experiences. They discuss the creative process behind the song "Search Party, influences from iconic musicians like Joe Strummer.

The episode also includes a detailed wine tasting segment, where they share their thoughts on various wines and their preferences, culminating in a lively discussion about the joys of wine and music.

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Chapters

00:00 Exploring Sardinian Wines

03:10 Wine Tasting Experience

11:01 Understanding Natural Wines

20:16 The Story Behind the Winery

23:24 Personal Reflections on Wine

25:47 Exploring Wine and Music Connections

27:44 The Story Behind "Search Party"

32:17 Influences and Inspirations in Music

40:31 Rock Names and Identities 46:30 Wine Tasting and Recommendations

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In this episode of Deep Dive: Celebrity Adjacent, hosts Andy Tarnoff and Carole Caine compare notes about their very different encounters with comedian and actor Howie Mandel. Carole interviewed Howie in the early 2000s at the Montreal Comedy Festival and found him funny and gracious, while it took a while for Andy to get him to open up in his 2012 phone conversation.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Personal Anecdotes

04:38 First Impressions of Howie Mandel

10:13 Memorable Encounters with Howie Mandel

18:44 The Art of Interviewing Celebrities

21:27 Looking Ahead: Future Celebrity Stories

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In this episode of Deep Dive: Wine Acoustics, hosts Andy Tarnoff and Courtney Taylor-Taylor gather in person at the Odditorium in Portland. They explore a bottle of 2019 La Gerla Brunello di Montalcino, as well as the 30th anniversary of Courtney's band, The Dandy Warhols. The discussion is rich with humor, insights and personal anecdotes, making it a captivating listen for fans of music and wine alike.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Deep Dive: Wine Acoustics

03:02 Exploring Brunello di Montalcino

05:59 Tasting Notes and Wine Structure

09:01 Wine Shop Experience and Recommendations

12:10 Wine Characteristics and Personal Stories

15:06 Wine Ratings and Future Predictions

16:24 The Evolution of Wine Tasting

20:31 The Art of Performance and Connection

27:53 Navigating Band Dynamics and Longevity

30:00 Home Turf vs. Touring: The Experience

34:40 Recognition and the Nature of Fame

In this episode of Deep Dive: The Feed, hosts Andy Tarnoff and Eron Laber explore various unique kitchen gadgets and improvements. They discuss items found on Facebook Marketplace, including a jerky cannon, a nut chopper and a Polynesian nutcracker. The conversation takes a turn toward innovative cooking methods in unconventional spaces, such as hotel rooms, highlighting the "creativity" and practicality of home cooking. They discuss the balance between cooking while traveling for business and leisure, the quirky Muff Pot gadget, creative kitchen storage solutions, and the love for coffee.

And of course, they debate the rise of kitchen robots, and whether modern kitchen improvements truly enhance cooking experiences.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Kitchen Improvements

03:10 Exploring Unique Kitchen Gadgets

06:01 Cultural Perspectives on Kitchen Tools

08:58 Innovative Cooking in Unconventional Spaces

17:45 Traveling and Cooking: Balancing Business and Leisure

18:36 The Muff Pot: A Unique Cooking Gadget

21:52 Creative Kitchen Solutions: Custom Cabinets and Storage

23:18 Coffee Lovers Unite: The Quest for the Perfect Brew

25:05 Dream Kitchen Appliances: The Ultimate Espresso Machine

26:51 The Rise of Kitchen Robots: Convenience vs. Tradition

29:04 Exploring Kitchen Technology: The Chef Robot

34:50 Kitchen Improvements: Are They Worth It?

In this episode of Deep Dive: The Feed, hosts Andy Tarnoff and Eron Laber explore the quirky world of New Year's resolutions through the lens of Facebook Marketplace listings. They discuss traditional resolutions like fitness and family time, while humorously examining unique items that relate to these goals. The conversation flows from self-improvement to new hobbies. They encourage their audience to embrace their resolutions, however unconventional, and to find joy in the process of self-exploration.

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Chapters

00:00 New Year, New Resolutions

08:47 Unique Fitness Solutions

17:46 Self-Improvement and Quirky Listings

26:58 Family Connections and Unique Gifts

34:54 Life Reflections and Future Planning

42:12 Closing Thoughts and Future Episodes

In this episode of Deep Dive Wine Acoustics, hosts Andy Tarnoff and Courtney Taylor-Taylor explore the Bordeaux wine region, focusing on Chateau de Raux. They discuss the Creux Bourgeois rating, share their tasting experiences, analyze the wine label, and compare opinions on the wine's quality. The conversation also touches on food pairings, the historical context of Lebanese wine, and personal anecdotes related to wine culture. The conversation flows from the celebration of the band's 30th anniversary to detailed wine evaluations, including recommendations for decanting and pairing.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Bordeaux and Wine Ratings

03:04 Exploring the Wine's Characteristics

06:03 Tasting Experience and Pairing with Cheese

09:10 Wine Reviews and Contradictions

12:10 Historical Context of Lebanese Wine

15:04 Cultural References and Personal Anecdotes

26:40 Transitioning to In-Person Recording

30:00 Wine Tasting Experience

34:45 Musical Memories and Songwriting

40:45 Exploring Musical Influences

45:04 Wine Review and Recommendations

48:11 Post-Wine Reflection and Recap

In this episode of Deep Dive: Celebrity Adjacent, hosts Andy Tarnoff and Carole Caine explore their shared experiences with celebrities, focusing on Milwaukee Brewers legend Robin Yount. They discuss the relatability of Yount, memorable moments from their interactions, and the camaraderie among Brewers players. The conversation also touches on celebrity encounters and personal anecdotes, creating a nostalgic atmosphere that highlights the joys of connecting with famous personalities.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Celebrity Adjacent Podcast

05:47 Memorable Experiences with Robin Yount

12:02 Behind the Scenes with Brewers Legends

19:46 Celebrity Encounters and Personal Stories

In episode nine of Deep Dive: The Feed, hosts Andy Tarnoff and Eron Labor riff on a variety of vehicles listed on Facebook Marketplace, ranging from jet packs to helicopters, hot air balloons to Zambonis. They share personal experiences with vehicle purchases and sales, while and laughing at these listings (and themselves).

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Chapters

00:00 Exploring the Vehicles of Facebook Marketplace

14:07 Unique Vehicle Listings and Personal Experiences

28:00 Creative and Quirky Vehicle Ideas

36:05 Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts on Vehicles