In this episode, Chris Cunneen, author of 'Defund the Police: An International Insurrection', speaks to Rebecca Megson-Smith about the broad need to defund the police.

They discuss why defunding is the best route forward instead of further investment and reform, what viable alternatives there might be and what we would need in order to make this vision of society a reality.

Find out more about the book: https://policy.bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/defund-the-police

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