Frank officially stepped down as CEO of DeGods, prompting a passionate community debate about broken promises, failed execution, and trend-chasing across multiple chains and token experiments. Cap, Steve, and former ambassador Jack reflect on the project’s rise and fall, contrasting its chaotic trajectory with the steady, brand-focused approach of collections like VeeFriends. They also touch on bullish Bitcoin moves, easing U.S.-China tariffs, and a fresh $1.34B MicroStrategy buy.

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