Want messaging that actually drives results? In this episode of Demand Gen Confidential, I’m joined by Chris Silvestri, founder of Conversion Alchemy, who brings a systems-thinking approach to copywriting rooted in psychology, strategy, and real customer insight.

We cover:

✅ How to shift your messaging in the profitability era

✅ The difference between positioning and messaging (most marketers blur it)

✅ Chris’s decision-making framework for conversion copy

✅ Tactical uses of AI that actually make marketers faster

✅ How synthetic research can help you scale messaging without sacrificing quality

Chris also shares his thoughts on music, marketing, and we discuss why marketers should think like scientists.

08:16 – From Drums to Conversion Copy: Chris’s Origin Story

10:55 – Messaging in the Profitability Era: Art Meets Outcome

18:51 – Positioning vs. Messaging Strategy: What Most Get Wrong

33:44 – Crafting a Point of View That Cuts Through the Noise

38:42 – Chris’s Decision-Making Framework for Conversion

45:25 – Practical AI Tactics for B2B Marketers

52:38 – Synthetic Research: A New Frontier for Customer Insight

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Stop doing what every marketer thinks they’re supposed to do. And start thinking really hard about what actually works.

In this episode of Demand Gen Confidential, I talk with Austin Sandmeyer of Sendoso about breaking out of the B2B marketing status quo. They killed MQLs, ditched traditional trade shows, and took a risk running a Severance-themed campaign. Austin is a heavy user of AI to empower - not replace - humans. Get the blueprint for intentional, high-impact marketing in today’s profitability era.

If you're a marketer navigating internal buy-in, metrics overload, or the pressure to be everywhere at once, this episode’s for you.

In this episode, we discussed:

• 00:00 - The Joys of Contact Naps
• 07:36 - Meet Austin from Sendoso
• 09:13 - B2B vs B2C: Why Austin Chose Relationships Over Transactions
• 13:27 - Keeping Marketing Weird: Campaigns That Break the Mold
• 17:23 - Innies vs Outties: A Severance-Inspired Strategy
• 20:24 - Getting Campaign Buy-In: Telling the Right Internal Story
• 24:58 - Thinking Hard About Metrics: Ditching MQLs
• 30:02 - Events Reinvented: Ditching Trade Shows for Real Relationships
• 42:19 - AI in Marketing: Automate the Mundane, Human the Valuable

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In this episode of Demand Gen Confidential, host I talk with seasoned growth marketer and fractional CMO David Cardiel to unpack what it takes to thrive as a modern B2B marketer in today’s environment of lean teams, profitability mandates, and executive scrutiny.

David shares hard-won lessons from scaling marketing teams through acquisition, aligning with sales and finance on metrics that matter, and using AI to build smarter, more repeatable go-to-market systems.

Whether you're leading demand gen at an early-stage startup or navigating scale at a mature SaaS company, this episode offers a blueprint for turning marketing into a growth engine the boardroom actually believes in.

Key Topics:

00:54 - Scaling Teams from $10M to $30M ARR

06:44 - Intro: The Revenue-Ready Marketer

08:26 - Fluent Speak: Earning Executive and Finance Trust

13:26 - ICP Work and CAC Discipline for Repeatable Growth

17:49 - Metrics That Align: Speaking Revenue Across Marketing, Sales, and Finance

25:19 - AI as a Tactical Advantage for Lean Marketing

35:23 - What Modern Marketers Need to Win

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Marketing teams track more metrics than ever, but which ones actually matter? Connie Wang - data analyst, ex-PhD researcher, and one of the sharpest minds in measurement strategy - helps us cut through the noise. Learn how to avoid common analytics traps, choose better metrics, and make decisions with confidence.

This episode is a must-listen for marketers who want to sharpen their measurement skills and make data actually useful.

• 00:00 – Welcome to the Data Deep Dive

• 11:56 – Pitfall #1: How to identify signal vs. noise in your metrics

• 38:05 – Pitfall #2: You’re not thinking hard enough about your metrics

• 47:07 – Pitfall #3: Choosing quantity over quality

• 49:22 – Advice: Start with decisions you will make

• 56:00 – Conclusion: Keep It Simple, Stay Curious

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In this episode, Guido Nuijten joins us to break down how to stop running boring campaigns and start building smarter, revenue-generating ones.

We dive into why focusing on targeting beats channel obsession, how brand awareness fuels real pipeline growth, and why marketers need to work hand-in-hand with sales for true impact. 

Plus, Guido shares fresh insights on using offline marketing creatively in a digital world.

🔥 Topics we cover:

If you’re tired of playing it safe and want to stand out (and win), this one's for you.

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Advanced conversion signals and attribution are redefining paid efficiency. Join us in this episode of Demand Gen Confidential, where we dive deep into advanced marketing tactics with special guest Harry Hawk, a seasoned marketer with a wealth of experience. 

Learn about the nuanced world of multi-touch attribution, AI in marketing, lift tests, and Harry's concept of deep funnel optimization that can significantly reduce Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC) and shorten deal cycles. 

Whether you're looking to enhance your marketing stack, understand the complexity of attribution, or just want to hear fascinating stories like Harry owning a New York City beach bar, tune in to this episode.

00:00 - Introduction

03:47 - 2025 Marketing Trends

11:11 - Using AI Attribution

37:07 - Deep Funnel Conversion Optimization for Google and Facebook

01:21:59 - Using AI in your Marketing

Credits

• Revsure

• Agent.ai

In this episode of Demand Gen Confidential, we sit down with Frederik Hermann, VP Marketing at Akia, to explore innovative marketing strategies and the future of digital marketing in the era of Generative Engine Optimization and AI.

Frederik shares insights from his extensive background in marketing and experience with multiple tech startups. We dive into the evolution of SEO and the rise of Generative Engine Optimization (GEO).

Learn practical tactics like implementing LLMs.txt, structured content, and making use of AI agents for market research and building ideal customer profiles. Frederik also discusses the importance of consistent branding and debunks some of the misconceptions around AI.

Tune in to discover how marketers can stay ahead in this rapidly changing landscape.

00:00 - Intro

03:49 - Frederik's Background (LinkedIn | Website)

05:37 - History around SEO and Digital Marketing

13:58 - Generative Engine Optimization Tactics

33:15 - How to Measure GEO ROI

36:15 - AI Agents for Marketers

41:53 - Closing

Episode Resources

• GEO Tactics Blog Post
• Akia
• LLMs.txt
• ChatGPT
• Perplexity
• Claude -
• Acquired Jensen Huang Interview
• ChatGPT PR Strategy Source
• Agent.AI