President Trump promised retribution during his presidential campaign. He also talked about giving himself tremendous power, and his vice president has talked about defying the courts.

And despite all of that, voters all over the country looked at the Trump ticket last year and said they'd rather have that than a Democrat.

So what’s so wrong with the Democrats? And what’s it gonna take to fix it? Since the 2024 election, one Washington Democrat has been saying – guys, look to our state and our state’s Democratic wins for answers. Shasti Conrad, the Washington Democrats’ state party chair and vice chair of the Democratic National Committee joins Sound Politics to discuss the future of the Democratic party.

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