Alexi Giannoulias lets it be known he may run for mayor. Ben riffs. Denali joins in. They wind up talking about Robert Moses, Robert Caro, The Power Broker, Common Ground, Bill Burr, Jimmy Kimmel, Dolly Parton, 9-to-5, Cher, Miranda July, LA fires, Biden’s farewell warning, Eisenhower’s warning, John Lindsey and a whole bunch of other stuff. Denali Dasgupta is political strategist.

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