We talk about the unavoidable coronavirus, but mainly just let the conversation flow.

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Physical existence is extremely limiting, mind can be free, but only in the world can 2 minds communicate. What makes a good conversation? Ordinary and musical conversations. Messaging, phone, video and telepathy. Why are we doing this podcast? Life-changing conversations, storytelling, before phones..

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We talk about KOBE’s song, The Ballad of a Man and his Sorrow, the origins of the band and the song, the idea for the music video, keeping it secret, the director, crew and cast, the video shoot, response to the video..

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In this episode we talk about songwriting, influence versus plagiarism, the feeling of originality, the litigiousness of the music business, cultural appropriation, music for pets.. We also throw in some classical music history, quotes from great musicians, and fact-check our previous episode.

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Bain & Sugars discuss their passion for bread.

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Bain & Sugars talk about getting a start in music, influences, motivation and musical ambitions.

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Paul asks LJ about some aspects of the music business and how much effort artists and aspiring artists have to put into them.

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