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Sue's first experience with the desert was accompanying her husband, Pete, to a job interview in 29 Palms for a teaching position in 1957. At first blush, Sue was not impressed with the place, sitting under an elm tree in the June desert heat and then moving from Texas, in the middle of August, with their three young children. But, she agreed to try it out for two years - 60 years later, she's still here. After discounting the pink desert mountains in a John Hilton painting as artistic license, her mind was changed when she witnessed them with her own eyes. The beauty of the desert and the kindnesses of its community members kept her here. Sue spent 40 years as a substitute teacher in the Morongo Unified School District, gaining a reputation for being tough - her husband nicknaming her 'Mrs. McMean'. These days, she loves filing historical data in the Research Room of The Old Schoolhouse Museum and giving tours to the third grade classes who come to see a classroom with an actual chalkboard. In this episode, Sue shares memories of the annual Weed Show and talks about some of the books, by local authors like Art Kidwell, available in the gift shop of The Old Schoolhouse Museum and the current expansion of the museum to accommodate the growing interest in historical programs hosted there by The Desert Institute. Sue's children, two of whom are also now retired, left the area long ago and worry a bit about their mom remaining in the desert at her advanced age. Sue understands, but loves the place and the people with whom she has made a life and feels strongly that she is still fulfilling her purpose. Sue's not ready to leave her desert home any time soon.
A native New Yorker, Ivy Pochoda has discovered the pull of the desert. After moving to LA, she'd heard folks talk about going to the desert. Eventually she took a trip to Palm Springs and, though nice, wasn't really the experience she was looking for. The second trip she booked a vacation rental 'near Joshua Tree National Park'. After driving for sometime past two entrances to the National Park, Ivy realized the definition of the word 'near' had different meanings to her and the vacation rental owner. Turns out, the reward for all that driving was staying in what's known as The Tile House in Wonder Valley. Growing up in NY, Ivy started playing squash, found she was very good at it and ended up traveling the world to play. When her parents encouraged her to get off the 'road' and find something more stable, Ivy decided on writing. Her publisher parents weren't certain that was the right choice - Ivy has prevailed. Her third novel, 'Wonder Valley', was a Los Angeles Times Book of the Year and her writing has appeared in many publications like the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and The LA Times, just to name a few. Though only featured in three chapters of 'Wonder Valley', we talk about dealing with the reactions of locals, who may feel 'their place' may have been misrepresented in a work of fiction. After watching a film about LA's Skid Row, Ivy decided to get involved with LAMP (Los Angeles Men's Place) Community, teaching creative writing in their arts program. LAMP has since merged with another organization and is now known as The People Concern. Ivy finds herself planning to return to the desert even before the present trip she's on is over. Me thinks she's hooked.
The first time Christina came to the desert it was to ring in the new year at Pappy & Harriet's in Pioneertown. She connected with some musicians who introduced her to various aspects of the desert, including the national park and Christina began splitting her time between Orange County, CA and the desert. During the transition, she also took up rock-climbing and has met and been trained by some of the most experienced and best climbers in the business. In this episode Christina also talks about desert dating experiences, along with a side of the desert community she was surprised to bear witness to and how being alone in the desert has helped her with setting some personal boundaries. Her love of desert plants and their medicinal value lead her to create 'Every Leaf Speaks'. Christina studied at The Gaia School of Healing & Earth Education and is in her second year of learning at Green Wisdom Herbal Studies, which is rooted in the Wise WOMBan Tradition. Christina recently began teaching classes on medicine making her in the Morongo Basin. We end the episode with a lovely poem by one of Christina's inspirations, Susun Weed. Every Leaf Speaks on Facebook Susun Weed Website Kim Stringfellow's Mojave Project JT Rock Climber History Cactus Mart Every Leaf Speaks on Instagram Christina's Hair Design
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