Deserts to Mountaintops Podcast

Interview with Author Ellen Busch hosted by Jessica Buchanan from Soul Speak Press and Deserts to Mountaintops Podcast

Ellen's Memoir "(dis)Empowered: How I Turned an Academic Death Sentence Into My Life’s Greatest Adventure" is available now anywhere you purchase books online. 

About "(dis)Empowered"
Despite being raised in a loving family, life had left Ellen Busch traumatized and at her wit's end. Busch had no home, no job, no relationship, and no hope of having a family.

Even though Ellen escaped from an abusive husband, she was controlled by the unshakable stigma of dyslexia that erased any shred of self-worth. Busch couldn’t see that she was a victim of trauma until one fateful day, on a crowded highway, when she had a moment of realization that would change the trajectory of her life.

(dis)Empowered traces Busch’s journey from a troubled child trapped in an educational system that believed she was broken, to an insecure adult who grasped at each success like a rung on a ladder. But as she climbed, the view never changed because she could not see her own successes. All she saw was a woman who was unworthy, incapable, feeling powerless.

After being deceived into a marriage with a narcissist, left with nothing, she surrendered to a higher power. And in one epiphanic moment, she realized that everything that had happened to her had happened for her.

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Learn more about Ellen: https://www.ellenbusch.com/

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This podcast is hosted by Jessica Buchanan, a NYT Bestselling author, speaker, survivor and founder of Soul Speak Press. Soul Speak Press is a boutique non-traditional publishing company focused on publishing stories from women who have been through something, now they know something, and can teach us something.

Learn more about Jessica's first book: Impossible Odds: The Kidnapping of Jessica Buchanan and Her Dramatic Rescue by SEAL Team Six

Learn more about the Deserts to Mountaintops Anthologies. If you're interested in hearing interviews with our Soul Speak Press authors, check out the Deserts to Mountaintops Podcast. 

In this episode of Deserts to Mountaintops, Jessica interviews Rachel Fesko, author of the anthology chapter titled "Failure Isn't Final," where she details her desert to mountaintop experience.

Deserts to Mountaintops is a limited series podcast created by Top 1% ranking podcast host, Jessica Kidwell, she lifts the author off the page as she holds conversations with co-authors of this inaugural anthology released in January 2023 by Soul Speak Press.

This series is meant to give readers of DTM a deeper insight into the authors that brought their experiences to the page and hopes to inspire it’s audience to a place of transformational healing.

Deserts to Mountaintops: Our Collective Journey to (re)Claiming Our Voice is available now on Amazon.

For more information on Deserts to Mountaintops, Soul Speak Press and upcoming anthologies, please visit www.desertstomountaintops.com.  For more information Jessica Buchanan, please visit www.jessbuchanan.com or follow her on instagram at @jessicacbuchanan

Meet Rachel:
Rachel is a single working mom and obtained her Masters in Communications and Leadership from Purdue University. Rachel is an experienced writer and speaker, bringing her story of failure and success to audiences everywhere. In a world where perfectionism reigns supreme and social media has created the perfect façade, failures are rarely made public or celebrated. She’s learned that without failure, there isn’t growth, and that we need to create safe environments to foster failure where people can fail and try in order to innovate. Her insight helps break down the barriers between our hesitancy to fail vs. our necessity to fail in order to grow and centers around how to build teams that foster creativity and innovation that create an environment where people thrive and love to come to work. You can find her on Instagram: @MsRachelFesko or LinkedIn.

The theme song is courtesy of the The Mystic Chics.
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This podcast is hosted by Jessica Buchanan, a NYT Bestselling author, speaker, survivor and founder of Soul Speak Press. Soul Speak Press is a boutique non-traditional publishing company focused on publishing stories from women who have been through something, now they know something, and can teach us something.

Learn more about Jessica's first book: Impossible Odds: The Kidnapping of Jessica Buchanan and Her Dramatic Rescue by SEAL Team Six

Learn more about the Deserts to Mountaintops Anthologies. If you're interested in hearing interviews with our Soul Speak Press authors, check out the Deserts to Mountaintops Podcast. 

In this episode of Deserts to Mountaintops, Jessica interviews Jamie Sabat, author of the anthology chapter titled "Command to Create," where she details her desert to mountaintop experience.

Deserts to Mountaintops is a limited series podcast created by Top 1% ranking podcast host, Jessica Kidwell, she lifts the author off the page as she holds conversations with co-authors of this inaugural anthology released in January 2023 by Soul Speak Press.

This series is meant to give readers of DTM a deeper insight into the authors that brought their experiences to the page and hopes to inspire it’s audience to a place of transformational healing.

Deserts to Mountaintops: Our Collective Journey to (re)Claiming Our Voice is available now on Amazon.

For more information on Deserts to Mountaintops, Soul Speak Press and upcoming anthologies, please visit www.desertstomountaintops.com.  For more information Jessica Buchanan, please visit www.jessbuchanan.com or follow her on instagram at @jessicacbuchanan

Meet Jamie:
My own journey of manifesting began with the important decision to live the life I truly desired. What followed was the resolve to let nothing stand in my way of attaining that goal. I accepted myself as my own client and dedicated myself
to the practice of manifesting the best life possible. The decision to make the journey and not the destination came not from a life-changing event; rather, it came from a deep awakening that I had not yet reached my highest potential. Only when I changed the path I was on, with the intent of living the life I had always wanted, did I understand that the universe was waiting to show me the answers to life’s questions. www.distillandexpress.com @distillandexpress

The theme song is courtesy of the The Mystic Chics.
Instagram @themysticchics

This podcast is hosted by Jessica Buchanan, a NYT Bestselling author, speaker, survivor and founder of Soul Speak Press. Soul Speak Press is a boutique non-traditional publishing company focused on publishing stories from women who have been through something, now they know something, and can teach us something.

Learn more about Jessica's first book: Impossible Odds: The Kidnapping of Jessica Buchanan and Her Dramatic Rescue by SEAL Team Six

Learn more about the Deserts to Mountaintops Anthologies. If you're interested in hearing interviews with our Soul Speak Press authors, check out the Deserts to Mountaintops Podcast. 

In this episode of Deserts to Mountaintops, Jessica interviews Gabriela Bell, author of the anthology chapter titled "Finding My Voice," where she details her desert to mountaintop experience from an abusive marriage to thriving business owner.

Deserts to Mountaintops is a limited series podcast created by Top 1% ranking podcast host, Jessica Kidwell, she lifts the author off the page as she holds conversations with co-authors of this inaugural anthology released in January 2023 by Soul Speak Press.

This series is meant to give readers of DTM a deeper insight into the authors that brought their experiences to the page and hopes to inspire it’s audience to a place of transformational healing.

Deserts to Mountaintops: Our Collective Journey to (re)Claiming Our Voice is available now on Amazon.

For more information on Deserts to Mountaintops, Soul Speak Press and upcoming anthologies, please visit www.desertstomountaintops.com.  For more information Jessica Buchanan, please visit www.jessbuchanan.com or follow her on instagram at @jessicacbuchanan

Meet Gabriela:
Math teacher turned social impact entrepreneur Gabriela Bell is the founder and CEO of award-winning Organized Q, which provides Virtual Executive Assistant Services to small business owners, executives, and social impact organizations. Organized Q’s social impact mission is in providing flexible remote work opportunities to military spouses, veterans, and under-employed professionals. As a domestic abuse survivor and believer in necessity is the mother of invention, Gabriela is a fierce advocate, speaker, and educator.

As a single mother of four, she has worked tirelessly to build a brighter future for herself, her children, and others in similar shoes. She has been recognized as one of Forbes Next 1000 small business owners and is an instructor at NYU’s Tandon School of Engineering Veteran Future Labs.

In her free time, Gabriela loves spending time with her four children traveling to new places, sharing great meals, and holding spontaneous dance parties in their tiny kitchen. Gabriela is determined to one day happily live on the beach with the ones she loves while continuing to grow Organized Q and teaching. Gabriela can be followed on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabriela-bell and you can learn more about Organized Q at www.organizedQ.com or at @organizedQ on social media channels.

The theme song is courtesy of the The Mystic Chics.
Instagram @themysticchics

This podcast is hosted by Jessica Buchanan, a NYT Bestselling author, speaker, survivor and founder of Soul Speak Press. Soul Speak Press is a boutique non-traditional publishing company focused on publishing stories from women who have been through something, now they know something, and can teach us something.

Learn more about Jessica's first book: Impossible Odds: The Kidnapping of Jessica Buchanan and Her Dramatic Rescue by SEAL Team Six

Learn more about the Deserts to Mountaintops Anthologies. If you're interested in hearing interviews with our Soul Speak Press authors, check out the Deserts to Mountaintops Podcast. 

In this episode of Deserts to Mountaintops, Jessica interviews Ally Behnke, author of the anthology chapter titled "Painless Cycles,"  where she details her desert to mountaintop experience  to finding harmony in life by embracing her feminine nature, somatic awareness, and thoughtful self-care practices.

Deserts to Mountaintops is a limited series podcast created by Top 1% ranking podcast host, Jessica Kidwell, she lifts the author off the page as she holds conversations with co-authors of this inaugural anthology released in January 2023 by Soul Speak Press.

This series is meant to give readers of DTM a deeper insight into the authors that brought their experiences to the page and hopes to inspire it’s audience to a place of transformational healing.

Deserts to Mountaintops: Our Collective Journey to (re)Claiming Our Voice is available now on Amazon.

For more information on Deserts to Mountaintops, Soul Speak Press and upcoming anthologies, please visit www.desertstomountaintops.com.  For more information Jessica Buchanan, please visit www.jessbuchanan.com or follow her on instagram at @jessicacbuchanan

Meet Ally:
Ally grew up in Northern VA and competed in club gymnastics in her youth. Then in her twenties she spent her time in the art and design worlds of Washington, D.C., and beyond. In her early thirties Ally started real estate investing and developed an entrepreneurial passion for creative problem solving. Throughout her life Ally has always been spiritual, and enjoys soaking up wisdom regarding self-awareness from various modalities and sources. After being seduced by the hustle culture, she found harmony in life by embracing her feminine nature, somatic awareness, and
thoughtful self-care practices. She now draws on her life experience to empower other women to listen to the truth of their bodies and take action to create the life of their dreams. She enjoys yoga, rehabbing houses, and spending time with her partner and baby. Stop by and connect with her on all social media platforms @AllyBehnke

The theme song is courtesy of the The Mystic Chics.
Instagram @themysticchics

This podcast is hosted by Jessica Buchanan, a NYT Bestselling author, speaker, survivor and founder of Soul Speak Press. Soul Speak Press is a boutique non-traditional publishing company focused on publishing stories from women who have been through something, now they know something, and can teach us something.

Learn more about Jessica's first book: Impossible Odds: The Kidnapping of Jessica Buchanan and Her Dramatic Rescue by SEAL Team Six

Learn more about the Deserts to Mountaintops Anthologies. If you're interested in hearing interviews with our Soul Speak Press authors, check out the Deserts to Mountaintops Podcast. 

In this episode of Deserts to Mountaintops, Jessica interviews Alice Meehan, author of the anthology chapter titled "Embracing the Feminine,"  where she details her desert to mountaintop experience navigating a toxic work culture and finding her voice in the Divine Feminine.

Deserts to Mountaintops is a limited series podcast created by Top 1% ranking podcast host, Jessica Kidwell, she lifts the author off the page as she holds conversations with co-authors of this inaugural anthology released in January 2023 by Soul Speak Press.

This series is meant to give readers of DTM a deeper insight into the authors that brought their experiences to the page and hopes to inspire it’s audience to a place of transformational healing.

Deserts to Mountaintops: Our Collective Journey to (re)Claiming Our Voice is available now on Amazon.

For more information on Deserts to Mountaintops, Soul Speak Press and upcoming anthologies, please visit www.desertstomountaintops.com.  For more information Jessica Buchanan, please visit www.jessbuchanan.com or follow her on instagram at @jessicacbuchanan

Meet Alice:
Alice has been in business management consulting for over twenty-five years. This has brought her great joy and great pain at times. After working in toxic environments and experiencing mistreatment at the hands of male leadership, Alice delved deeper into her spiritual work. She found her true voice through working with the Divine Feminine in cultivating a life of awareness and self-discovery through various practices of spirituality including manifestation, visualization, meditation, moon cycles, and even a little magic. Alice has always felt pulled to women’s empowerment. As the mother of two daughters, it is extremely important to her that they are able to live in this world as who they truly are and not be silenced by the patriarchy. Alice wants to share her story, to help other women (especially young women) know they do not have to succumb to a toxic workplace, but can embrace their feminine values and not be afraid to fully use their voice. She hopes her work experience and her spirituality will inspire other women to be their authentic selves and discover their magic. Alice’s greatest joys are spending time with her husband and two daughters (“laughing with them is the best thing in the world”), working out, collecting crystals, reading, and sitting on the beach absorbing the sounds and energy of the ocean. Follow Alice on Instagram @alicemm44 and on Linked In at Alice Meehan

The theme song is courtesy of the The Mystic Chics.
Instagram @themysticchics

This podcast is hosted by Jessica Buchanan, a NYT Bestselling author, speaker, survivor and founder of Soul Speak Press. Soul Speak Press is a boutique non-traditional publishing company focused on publishing stories from women who have been through something, now they know something, and can teach us something.

Learn more about Jessica's first book: Impossible Odds: The Kidnapping of Jessica Buchanan and Her Dramatic Rescue by SEAL Team Six

Learn more about the Deserts to Mountaintops Anthologies. If you're interested in hearing interviews with our Soul Speak Press authors, check out the Deserts to Mountaintops Podcast. 

In this episode of Deserts to Mountaintops, Jessica interviews Ilsa Manning, author of the anthology chapter titled "(re)Birth,"   where she details her desert to mountaintop experience becoming a business owner and mother.

Deserts to Mountaintops is a limited series podcast created by Top 1% ranking podcast host, Jessica Kidwell, she lifts the author off the page as she holds conversations with co-authors of this inaugural anthology released in January 2023 by Soul Speak Press.

This series is meant to give readers of DTM a deeper insight into the authors that brought their experiences to the page and hopes to inspire it’s audience to a place of transformational healing.

Deserts to Mountaintops: Our Collective Journey to (re)Claiming Our Voice is available now on Amazon.

For more information on Deserts to Mountaintops, Soul Speak Press and upcoming anthologies, please visit www.desertstomountaintops.com.  For more information Jessica Buchanan, please visit www.jessbuchanan.com or follow her on instagram at @jessicacbuchanan

Meet Ilsa:
Ilsa Manning is a mother, founder, fragrance designer, author, and your biggest cheerleader. Born and raised in Phoenix, Arizona she adventured to Europe after graduating with a BA in History from the University of Arizona. She’s lived in France, Poland, and England; she’s au paired, taught ESL, graduated with an MA in Modern History from Royal Holloway, University of London, and finally found her calling in fragrance while working at the largest fragrance and flavor supplier in the world. Ilsa returned home to Phoenix with a husband in hand and a drive to pursue all things fragrance. After an epiphanic awakening sparked by her new daughter’s love for her, Ilsa found self-belief for the first time in her life. Now her mission is to bring this same
awakening to all women through her luxury fine fragrance brand Ilsa Fragrances.
You can find her, her empowering fragrances, and positive messages at ilsafragrances.com, on Facebook and Twitter @ilsafragrances, and Instagram @ilsafragrances and @ilsamanning. She lives in Phoenix, Arizona, with her English husband, two young daughters, and dog that looks suspiciously like a coyote.

The theme song is courtesy of the The Mystic Chics.
Instagram @themysticchics

This podcast is hosted by Jessica Buchanan, a NYT Bestselling author, speaker, survivor and founder of Soul Speak Press. Soul Speak Press is a boutique non-traditional publishing company focused on publishing stories from women who have been through something, now they know something, and can teach us something.

Learn more about Jessica's first book: Impossible Odds: The Kidnapping of Jessica Buchanan and Her Dramatic Rescue by SEAL Team Six

Learn more about the Deserts to Mountaintops Anthologies. If you're interested in hearing interviews with our Soul Speak Press authors, check out the Deserts to Mountaintops Podcast. 

In this episode of Deserts to Mountaintops, Jessica interviews Olivia Ash, author of the anthology chapter titled "Adverse Possession," where she details her desert to mountaintop experience with her chronic illness.

Deserts to Mountaintops is a limited series podcast created by Top 1% ranking podcast host, Jessica Kidwell, she lifts the author off the page as she holds conversations with co-authors of this inaugural anthology released in January 2023 by Soul Speak Press.

This series is meant to give readers of DTM a deeper insight into the authors that brought their experiences to the page and hopes to inspire it’s audience to a place of transformational healing.

Deserts to Mountaintops: Our Collective Journey to (re)Claiming Our Voice is available now on Amazon.

For more information on Deserts to Mountaintops, Soul Speak Press and upcoming anthologies, please visit www.desertstomountaintops.com.  For more information Jessica Buchanan, please visit www.jessbuchanan.com or follow her on instagram at @jessicacbuchanan

Meet Olivia:
Olivia “Liv” Ash
An artist at heart, teacher by nature, and attorney by profession, Liv believes one of life’s greatest gifts is the ability to learn—to grow from within while contributing
to life’s symphony. Ever learning, Liv holds degrees in Law, Education, and Exercise Science. She’s an award-winning published author for her original research in the field of loneliness and law students, seeking to understand why law and other professions struggle with emotional health. Liv holds Indiana licenses in the fields of Law and
Education. She serves as Benefits Compliance Counsel for a national insurance services company where she creates ERISA education content. Liv continues teaching courses in lifestyle wellbeing and curriculum development as Adjunct Faculty in the School of Health and Human Sciences at Indiana University—Indianapolis.

Liv’s personal journey in managing chronic pain has brought both humility and an appreciation for life’s nuances. She believes wisdom resides within struggles, yet so does learning. Liv seeks her own balance and the beauty within each day by spending time in nature while also celebrating the color and style within the arts. Liv cycles for fitness; paints for balance; and writes both poetry and prose. To express, encourage,
and enlighten, Liv founded Liv Balanced, LLC, an evolving creative space where visitors may access wellbeing content, purchase prints of Liv’s abstract art, or listen to podcast interviews about managing loneliness.
Learn more about Liv and her creative projects, including the progress of her memoir, at https://www.livbalanced.net. Contact Liv via Facebook at Liv Balanced, LLC; Instagram@liv_balanced_llc; or email at [email protected].

This podcast is hosted by Jessica Buchanan, a NYT Bestselling author, speaker, survivor and founder of Soul Speak Press. Soul Speak Press is a boutique non-traditional publishing company focused on publishing stories from women who have been through something, now they know something, and can teach us something.

Learn more about Jessica's first book: Impossible Odds: The Kidnapping of Jessica Buchanan and Her Dramatic Rescue by SEAL Team Six

Learn more about the Deserts to Mountaintops Anthologies. If you're interested in hearing interviews with our Soul Speak Press authors, check out the Deserts to Mountaintops Podcast. 

In this episode of Deserts to Mountaintops, Jessica interviews Cameron Curtis, author of the anthology chapter titled "The Sound of Resilience,"  where she details her desert to mountaintop experience.

Deserts to Mountaintops is a limited series podcast created by Top 1% ranking podcast host, Jessica Kidwell, she lifts the author off the page as she holds conversations with co-authors of this inaugural anthology released in January 2023 by Soul Speak Press.

This series is meant to give readers of DTM a deeper insight into the authors that brought their experiences to the page and hopes to inspire it’s audience to a place of transformational healing.

Deserts to Mountaintops: Our Collective Journey to (re)Claiming Our Voice is available now on Amazon.

For more information on Deserts to Mountaintops, Soul Speak Press and upcoming anthologies, please visit www.desertstomountaintops.com.  For more information Jessica Buchanan, please visit www.jessbuchanan.com or follow her on instagram at @jessicacbuchanan

Meet Cameron:
Cameron Curtis is a classically trained musician. Was. Cameron’s passion for music, beginning with piano and then vocal performance, began in middle school through
college where she graduated with a Bachelor of Arts with a concentration in musical theater and opera. It stops there. She met the love of her life, Scott, got married, moved to Northern Virginia, and bought a house at the age of 23.
She lost her voice. Cameron’s family life has always been solid. Her mother and
father gave her unconditional love and support regardless of the path she took. Both encouraged her to be authentic and strong. She had two strong-willed grandmothers who impressed upon her from an early age that you should always take advantage of opportunities, even if they seemed risky. Following that advice, she took a job as an executive assistant for a higher-education not-for-profit. From there she moved
her way up the ladder from meeting planning to CEO. She discovered her true voice. Cameron is currently the President & CEO of C2 Association Strategies and has more than twenty-two years of not-for-profit management experience. She’s led organizations such as the Association for Air Medical Services, MedEvac
Foundation International, Society of Interventional Oncology, Association for Clinical and Translational Science, and the Texas Speech-Language Hearing Association. In addition, Cameron provided oversight for meetings and events, domestically and internationally. Cameron’s passion for growing leaders and helping others find their voices shows in her willingness to take advantage of any opportunity that comes her way. Risk is exciting to her, and she lives by the mantra her grandmother taught her,
“Never turn down anything but your coat collar.” Follow along on her website at www.c2associationstrategies.com or on Instagram and LinkedIn @cunzcurtis and Facebook at C2 Association Strategies.

The theme song is courtesy of the The Mystic Chics.
Instagram @themysticchics

This podcast is hosted by Jessica Buchanan, a NYT Bestselling author, speaker, survivor and founder of Soul Speak Press. Soul Speak Press is a boutique non-traditional publishing company focused on publishing stories from women who have been through something, now they know something, and can teach us something.

Learn more about Jessica's first book: Impossible Odds: The Kidnapping of Jessica Buchanan and Her Dramatic Rescue by SEAL Team Six

Learn more about the Deserts to Mountaintops Anthologies. If you're interested in hearing interviews with our Soul Speak Press authors, check out the Deserts to Mountaintops Podcast. 

In this episode of Deserts to Mountaintops, Jessica interviews The Mystic Chics (Wendy, Mary, Audrey), authors of the anthology chapter titled "Harmony in Healing."  where they detail her desert to mountaintop experience.

Deserts to Mountaintops is a limited series podcast created by Top 1% ranking podcast host, Jessica Kidwell, she lifts the author off the page as she holds conversations with co-authors of this inaugural anthology released in January 2023 by Soul Speak Press.

This series is meant to give readers of DTM a deeper insight into the authors that brought their experiences to the page and hopes to inspire it’s audience to a place of transformational healing.

Deserts to Mountaintops: Our Collective Journey to (re)Claiming Our Voice is available now on Amazon.

For more information on Deserts to Mountaintops, Soul Speak Press and upcoming anthologies, please visit www.desertstomountaintops.com.  For more information Jessica Buchanan, please visit www.jessbuchanan.com or follow her on instagram at @jessicacbuchanan

Meet The Mystic Chics:
The Mystic Chics (Mary Casey Bowers, Wendy Casey, and Audrey Casey Herrick) are modern medicine women affecting change through substance-free sacred ceremonies using energy, sound, movement, and music. They are family—two sisters and an aunt—and currently divide their time between their two studios: The Carriage House energy medicine studio in Alexandria, VA and Awaken with Audrey in Great Barrington, MA. A favorite activity of the Chics is to road trip together with a bag of grapes, Skinny Pop, and Cape Cod potato chips. Their morning routine generally includes an oracle card thought for the day and, when in Virginia, they love warm chai tea and a seasonal scone from Mae’s Market.

Mary lives in northern Virginia with her husband Roger and two furbabies: Bella and Casey. She has two grown sons Drake and Michael. A life-long musician, one of her earliest influences was Carly Simon Wendy lives in the Berkshires of Massachusetts. She has two grown children, Victoria and Jackson. She loves gardening, being outside, and her apple pie won the blue ribbon at the annual town fair.

Audrey lives in the Berkshires of Massachusetts and resides in Florida for part of the winter. She is mother to Hannah, Caitlyn, and Graham, her three grown children. She is a lover of love, cozy blankets, and dark chocolate.

Follow The Mystic Chics on all their social media platforms @themysticchics or visit their website at www.themysticchics.com.

The theme song is courtesy of the The Mystic Chics.

This podcast is hosted by Jessica Buchanan, a NYT Bestselling author, speaker, survivor and founder of Soul Speak Press. Soul Speak Press is a boutique non-traditional publishing company focused on publishing stories from women who have been through something, now they know something, and can teach us something.

Learn more about Jessica's first book: Impossible Odds: The Kidnapping of Jessica Buchanan and Her Dramatic Rescue by SEAL Team Six

Learn more about the Deserts to Mountaintops Anthologies. If you're interested in hearing interviews with our Soul Speak Press authors, check out the Deserts to Mountaintops Podcast.