Tom Cronkright joins Matt O’Neill for a conversation on the evolving threat of real estate fraud, how bad actors are targeting buyers and property owners, and why identity verification has become increasingly important in real estate transactions. As CEO of Sun Title and co-founder of CertifID, Tom shares what he is seeing firsthand as fraudsters become more patient, sophisticated, and strategic in how they target transactions.

He and Matt also discuss AI voice cloning, wire fraud, account takeovers, and the rise of seller impersonation fraud. Tom breaks down how criminals use publicly available property information to identify targets, what buyers and property owners can do to protect themselves, and why he believes stronger identity verification standards are needed across the real estate industry on this episode of Detonation Point presented by Elastio.

Resources

• Visit CertifID’s Website
• Visit Sun Title’s Website
• Connect with Tom Cronkright on LinkedIn

Chapters

00:28 The Evolving Fraud Landscape in Real Estate

05:28 AI and Voice Cloning: A New Threat

10:03 Preventing Fraud: Best Practices for Buyers

15:15 Legislative Changes and Consumer Protection

22:21 The Future of Fraud in Real Estate

About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio 

This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

Carl Wright joins Matt O’Neill for a conversation on selling technology to the federal government, navigating the GovCon market, and why success in the public sector requires a different approach than commercial sales. As Vice President of Global Public Sector at Hyperscience, Carl shares lessons from his career working across government contracting, technology, and federal go-to-market strategy.

He and Matt also discuss FedRAMP, government shutdowns and continuing resolutions, the challenges of bringing emerging technology into federal agencies, and how Hyperscience is turning complex government documents into data that can support AI and analytics. Carl also shares advice for federal employees transitioning into GovCon and explores how contract protests can delay innovation on this episode of Detonation Point presented by Elastio.

Resources

• Visit Hyperscience’s Website
• Connect with Carl Wright on LinkedIn

Chapters

00:18 Carl Wright’s GovCon & Technology Career

06:32 Government Shutdowns & the Federal Market

09:24 The Role of Translators in Tech & Government

12:59 Breaking Into Federal Government Sales

20:23 Aligning Sales, Product & Federal Customers

25:49 FedRAMP & Selling Technology to Government

29:19 Understanding Hyperscience’s Role in Government

46:11 From Federal Service to GovCon Consulting

53:02 The Impact of Protests on Government Contracts

About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio 

This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

Charles Blauner joins Matt O’Neill for a conversation on the evolution of cybersecurity, the changing role of the CISO, and the importance of treating security as a business risk. A pioneer in cybersecurity and former Global Head of Information Security at Citi, Charles shares lessons from more than two decades leading security at some of the world’s largest banks.

He and Matt also discuss cybersecurity regulation, collaboration across the industry, and why information sharing remains more difficult around fraud and financial crime. Charles looks ahead at longstanding challenges around identity and vulnerability management and how AI is changing the cybersecurity landscape on this episode of Detonation Point presented by Elastio.

Chapters

00:39 Charles Blauner’s Cybersecurity Career

06:23 Why the CISO Role Is About Business Risk

09:32 Resilience, Leadership & the Challenges of Being a CISO

19:23 Cybersecurity Regulation & Risk Management

20:43 Cybersecurity vs. Fraud Information Sharing

35:26 Modernizing Financial Information Sharing

38:46 Identity, Vulnerability Management & the Future of Cybersecurity

About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio 

This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

William Wright joins Detonation Point presented by Elastio for a wide-ranging conversation on offensive cybersecurity, red teaming, and the evolving threat landscape. As CEO of Closed Door Security, William shares stories from his career breaking into everything from banks to critical infrastructure, revealing how social engineering and physical security gaps can give attackers a way in.

He and Matt also discuss how AI is transforming cyber reconnaissance and enabling more convincing voice and deepfake scams, the risks of sharing personal information online, and the growing scale of organized scam operations. William also reflects on building a global cybersecurity company from Scotland and what organizations and individuals can do to better protect themselves as cyber threats continue to evolve.

Resources

• Visit Closed Door Security’s Website
• Connect with William Wright on LinkedIn

Chapters

00:24 William Wright’s Path Into Cybersecurity

04:04 Physical Security Testing & Social Engineering

12:12 How Red Teams Break Into Banks

13:55 Unusual Findings in Security Assessments

16:17 Building a Global Cybersecurity Company

24:07 Cybersecurity Degrees, Certifications & Experience

26:42 How AI Is Changing Cyberattacks & OSINT

31:42 Deepfakes, AI Voice Scams & Cybercrime

38:10 Scam Factories, Fraud & Protecting Victims

42:56 Government Responsibility in Combatting Scams and Fraud

About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio 

This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

Stephen Dougherty returns to Detonation Point presented by Elastio for a wide-ranging conversation on the evolving cyber fraud landscape. As CEO of RexxField, Stephen shares what he’s seeing firsthand in business email compromise, cryptocurrency scams, AI-powered social engineering, and efforts to recover stolen funds for victims.

He and Matt also look back nine years after helping launch the U.S. Secret Service’s Global Investigative Operations Center (GIOC), reflecting on what worked, the challenges of scaling a high-performing team, and what it will take to make a meaningful dent in cyber-enabled fraud today. And, as always, they make time for some Philadelphia sports talk, including the Phillies, Eagles, and predictions for the upcoming NFL season.

Chapters

00:07 Business Email Compromise: The Ongoing Challenge

05:56 Pig Butchering & Crypto Fraud

09:36 AI & Social Engineering

16:14 Education & Technology to Combat Fraud

18:05 Reflections on the Global Investigative Operations Center

24:49 Philly Sports Teams & NFL Predictions

About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio 

This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

Joe Sullivan joins Detonation Point presented by Elastio to trace the evolution of cybercrime from the early days of federal electronic-crime investigations to today’s challenges in Big Tech, fraud, and security leadership. After nearly eight years as a federal cybercrime prosecutor, Joe went on to lead security at companies including eBay, PayPal, Facebook, Uber, and Cloudflare. He shares stories from the 9/11 investigation, the Patriot Act, international cybercrime cases in Romania, and the lessons he learned moving from government into the private sector.

Resources

• Connect with Joe Sullivan on LinkedIn
• Visit Joe Sullivan Security

00:00 Cybercrime, 9/11 and the Patriot Act

05:54 Joe Sullivan’s First Cybercrime Case

07:28 Fighting Cybercrime in Romania

17:30 From Federal Prosecutor to Big Tech Security

24:22 Balancing Security, Growth & Business Risk

29:25 Why Online Fraud Keeps Growing

36:05 Law Enforcement, Big Tech & Security Leadership

About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio 

This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

Gary Owen, Chief Operating Officer at the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), discusses how the agency is evolving, from recruiting and developing the next generation of agents to embracing new technology and innovation. He also explores how the DEA is responding to a rapidly changing drug landscape, including the rise of fentanyl and synthetic drugs, and the growing importance of prevention and education alongside enforcement.

Resources

• Fentanyl Free America: Learn more about the DEA’s fentanyl prevention and education initiative
• Operation Prevention: Explore free drug prevention resources from the DEA and Discovery Education
• Connect with Gary Owen on LinkedIn

Chapters

00:07 Gary Owen’s Journey to the DEA

02:36 Evolution of DEA Recruitment and Training

09:45 Cartels, Crypto, Money Laundering & Global Operations

14:39 How Technology Changed DEA Investigations

26:06 How DEA Buys and Funds New Technology

32:33 The Role of Asset Forfeiture in Law Enforcement

34:47 How Fentanyl Changed the Drug Trade

46:24 DEA’s Approach to Drug Prevention & Education

About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio 

This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

Mark Kreitzman, General Manager and co-founder of Efani, discusses one of today's fastest-growing cybersecurity threats: SIM swapping. After becoming a victim himself despite nearly two decades of experience building cybersecurity companies, Mark turned that experience into a mission to help protect people from mobile account takeovers.

Mark explains how SIM swapping works, why your mobile number has become the master key to your digital identity, and how attackers use social engineering to bypass traditional security measures. He also shares real-world examples of high-profile SIM swap attacks, discusses the growing impact of AI-driven scams, and offers practical steps anyone can take to better protect their personal information.

Resources

• Learn more about Efani: https://www.efani.com/detonationpoint
• Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kreitzman/

Chapters

00:00 How a SIM Swap Changed Mark Kreitzman's Career

02:44 What Is SIM Swapping and How Criminals Take Over Your Phone Number

10:09 Real World SIM Swap Attacks: From Cryptocurrency Theft to Corporate Breaches

18:42 Why SMS Two-Factor Authentication Is No Longer Enough

22:31 Beyond SIM Swapping: Mobile Security Threats You Should Know

26:57 How Efani Protects Against Mobile Account Takeovers

34:14 AI, Voice Cloning, and Practical Steps to Protect Your Digital Identity

About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio 

This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

Ray Shuler, former Assistant Director for Cyber and Operational Technology at Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and partner at 5OH Consulting, joins Matt O'Neill to discuss the evolution of federal law enforcement, cyber investigations, and the transition from government service to the private sector.

Drawing on more than three decades of experience, Ray shares lessons from investigating cyber-enabled crime, leading large-scale technology initiatives, protecting investigators working child exploitation cases, and integrating artificial intelligence into modern investigations. He also reflects on retirement, leadership, and the importance of helping the next generation of federal agents prepare for life after government.

Key Takeaways

• Ray's path from local law enforcement to leading HSI's cyber and operational technology programs
• How child exploitation investigations shaped HSI's cyber mission
• The role of AI and big data in modern criminal investigations
• Why collaboration between government and private industry is more important than ever
• Lessons on leadership, mentoring, and preparing the next generation of investigators
• Practical advice for federal agents transitioning into the private sector

Resources

• Connect with Ray Shuler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ray-shuler-06bb02282/
• Learn more about 5OH Consulting: https://5ohconsulting.com/

Chapters

00:07 Intro to Ray Shuler: From Local Police to HSI Leadership

08:24 Investigating Child Exploitation and Protecting Investigators

11:49 Drug Investigations, Agency Collaboration, and Data Sharing

15:16 AI, Big Data, and the Future of Criminal Investigations

23:30 Government and Industry: Bridging the Communication Gap

29:23 Transitioning from Federal Service to the Private Sector

34:41 Career Advice for Retiring Federal Agents

43:06 What Federal Agents Miss Most After Retirement

About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio 

This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

Rich LaTulip, a legend of undercover cybercrime investigations and author of Operation Carder Kaos, takes listeners behind the scenes of an international undercover operation against global cybercriminals.

Rich shares the story behind Operation Carder Kaos, an investigation into online carding forums and organized cybercrime. He explains how he gained the trust of cybercriminals, maintained his undercover identity, and worked alongside international law enforcement partners to identify and dismantle major criminal networks.

Key Takeaways

• How Rich transitioned into cybercrime investigations
• The story behind Operation Carder Kaos
• What it takes to build and maintain an undercover identity online
• How organized cybercrime networks operated through carding forums
• The importance of international cooperation in cyber investigations
• How undercover tradecraft continues to shape Rich’s work in cybersecurity

Resources

• Read Operation Carder Kaos by Richard K. LaTulip: https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Carder-Kaos-Penetrated-Underground/dp/1041082061/
• Connect with Rich on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-latulip-5852606/

Chapters

00:00 Intro to Rich LaTulip & Operation Carder Kaos

05:11 From Secret Service Rookie to Cybercrime Investigator

11:51 Undercover Operations & Training

16:59 Operation Firewall & Its Impact

21:45 Operation Carter Chaos: Origins & Execution

27:35 Going Undercover: Meeting Elite Cybercriminals Around the World

30:40 Maksik: The Prolific Hacker & His Operations

41:37 The Arrest: Challenges & Bureaucracy

47:01 The Fall of Maksik & Lessons from a Global Cybercrime Investigation

53:26 Rich LaTulip's Book, Future Projects & Final Thoughts

About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio 

This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com