Funding for the Department of Homeland Security is set to expire at the end of the day Friday, after congressional leaders’ negotiations over reforms to immigration enforcement operations stalled. We discuss what a shutdown of the department means in practical terms, plus what we learned when immigration agency leaders testified before Congress this week. 

This episode: voting correspondent Miles Parks, congressional correspondent Barbara Sprunt, and immigration policy correspondent Ximena Bustillo.

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