Giuliana and Sofia take on two forms of difficulty in prayer: distraction and desolation. What causes these difficulties? Is it possible that they can be a gift from God? And what practical steps can we take if we’re plagued by distraction or stuck in desolation? This is a follow-up episode to the one on prayer. //

Our weekly challenge is to go for a walk in silence. And our media recommendation is East Coker, the second poem from T.S. Eliot’s Four Quartets. //

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Our theme music is Nich Lampson’s “Dolphin Kicks.”