From prosecuting a notorious serial killer to defending one of the most watched murder trials in modern history, Dick Harpootlian has seen every side of power and justice in South Carolina. Grace talks with the longtime attorney, former state senator, and Democratic Party chair about decades of state politics, party strategy, and how money and messaging shape who actually wins elections. Dick also digs into his new book on Pee Wee Gaskins, reflecting on criminal psychology, the death penalty, and how those cases changed him personally. It’s a candid, wide-ranging conversation that blends Southern political history, true crime, and hard-earned perspective.