Daniel Klein was born and raised in Efrat, one of the largest religious Zionist settlements in the occupied West Bank. His family helped build the settlement movement, and he grew up immersed in its schools, institutions, theology, politics, and culture before serving as an IDF tank commander. In this conversation, Daniel shares an insider's account of life inside the religious Zionist world, the psychology of belief, the realities of the settlement project, and how Zionism can present a different face to different people while maintaining a powerful hold over identity and belonging.We discuss Efrat, the West Bank, violent settlers, the relationship between Judaism and Zionism, the dehumanization of Palestinians, military service, nationalism, religious identity, cognitive dissonance, moral injury, and the personal costs of dissent. Daniel explains why leaving Zionism can mean losing family, friends, community, status, and purpose. He describes the process by which ideological systems reproduce themselves, how Israelis are taught to understand Palestinians, and why so many people remain trapped inside narratives.We also explore Daniel's awakening during COVID, what caused his worldview to unravel, why he believes Israeli society is entering a period of profound crisis, and what lessons his journey offers for all of us.00:00:00 Coming Up...00:01:44 Three Big Announcements00:04:44 Introducing Daniel & Centering Jewish Trauma00:09:26 Growing Up in Efrat00:12:07 Who Are Settlers?00:15:02 Zionist Schools Are Crazy00:20:53 Zionism Meets You Where You're At00:23:34 When Daniel Visited Auschwitz00:26:57 Israelis Were Celebrities To Me00:35:22 Supporting Israel Except The Settlers00:42:12 The Intellectual And Emotional Crack00:50:23 It Happens Quickly, During COVID01:02:30 Free Fall Collapse Of Israel01:09:47 A Smiling Grandmother With a Sweater01:19:44 The Violent Supernova At The EndBECOME A MEMBER - MONTHLY MEMBERS ONLY LIVESTREAM https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NIku35U9thGG9WBJjE0sw/joinFor more from Jay visit whatjaythinks.com

In this conversation with geopolitical scholar Mia Bennett, we explore why the Arctic is no longer a frozen periphery but the front line of global power. From Vladimir Putin planting a Russian flag beneath the North Pole seabed to renewed nuclear tensions across the polar region, the Arctic has become a stage for military posturing, resource competition, and great-power rivalry. As climate change rapidly melts sea ice, new shipping routes open and vast reserves of oil, gas, and critical minerals become accessible — intensifying what some call a new era of frontier capitalism. We discuss the long history of colonization in the far north, the strategic obsession with places like Greenland (including Donald Trump’s attempt to purchase it), and the often-overlooked role of Indigenous Arctic peoples navigating sovereignty, survival, and self-determination amid global ambition. The Arctic is a “cold canary in the coal mine” — revealing how environmental collapse, geopolitical rivalry, and extractive economics converge at the top of the world. What happens there will shape the century ahead.00:00 Coming Up01:18 Intro (Epstein News cycle )05:13 Mia's Path to the North07:51 Where is the Arctic?16:48 The Very Crowded Arctic20:59 The Cold Canary24:25 Why Does Trump Want Greenland?26:45 Colonialization of the Arctic30:58 Who Would Fight?33:01 Frontier Capitalism37:21 Global Warming and Getting Attention in the Arctic41:20 Taking Greenland Who Fights Back?44:11 A Story about Space and the Arctic46:58 Who Owns Space?50:39 Trusting Russia and the Arctic53:56 The Broken Global Order and the Arctic59:53 Does WW3 Start in the Arctic?BECOME A MEMBER - MONTHLY MEMBERS ONLY LIVESTREAM https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NIku35U9thGG9WBJjE0sw/joinFor more from Jay visit whatjaythinks.com

In this conversation, Joseph Margulies and I explore the difficult moral territory at the heart of his new book Cast Out: A Call for a Forgiving Society in an Age of Incarceration. What does a society gain—or lose—when it decides that certain people are beyond redemption? We talk about the stories of people Margulies encountered through his work, including Lisa Montgomery, David Medina, Klete Keller, Lucas Whaley, and Eric Matthews, and the disturbing realities of the American prison system. We also confront a fundamental question about who gets to tell the stories of people who have committed horrific crimes, and whether understanding those stories can coexist with genuine accountability.Margulies brings decades of experience as a criminal defense attorney to this question, including his defense of Palestinian Abu Zubaydah, who remains imprisoned at Guantánamo Bay without ever having been charged and who was subjected to brutal torture by the United States. We discuss what American prisons reveal about our attitudes toward human beings who have done terrible things, and how these questions extend beyond the prison system into Israel-Palestine and the broader politics of punishment, victimhood, and moral judgment.At the center of the conversation is a distinction that may be essential to any meaningful idea of forgiveness: an explanation is not an excuse. To understand why someone committed a terrible act does not mean absolving them of responsibility. But if accountability is part of forgiveness rather than its opposite, what should accountability actually look like? And can we build a society capable of condemning terrible acts without deciding that the people who commit them are themselves irredeemable? This conversation is an exploration of punishment, responsibility, storytelling, torture, forgiveness, and what it means to remain human in the face of the worst things human beings do.00:00:00 Coming Up...00:01:39 Introduction to Cast Out00:06:29 Joseph Margulies Story And Work00:08:08 A Book Not About Prison But About Us00:09:50 The Problem is Not Drug Offenders, Let's Be Honest00:13:09 Klete Keller Gets His Story Told00:17:03 Accountability Matters And Lisa Montgomery00:20:21 What Happened? With Lisa Montgomery00:32:05 Lucas Whaley And The Addiction to Rage00:45:18 The Belief Of Just One Person and Eric Matthews00:54:31 What Should Prison Look Like In a Forgiving Society?01:02:02 "Abu Zubaydah Is My Client" & The Palestine Narrative01:09:10 But What About REALLY Bad People? & Abu Zubaydah's Story01:20:27 The Desperate Need For Radical Extension of Compassion01:25:21 My Own Frustrations And Failure To Tell A Story01:28:23 Go Watch "Alabama Solution" and "The Work"BECOME A MEMBER - MONTHLY MEMBERS ONLY LIVESTREAM https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NIku35U9thGG9WBJjE0sw/joinFor more from Jay visit whatjaythinks.com

Luke Kemp is a researcher of existential risk whose work spans the rise and fall of civilizations, the psychology of empire, and the future of humanity. In this wide-ranging conversation, we explore whether history follows deeper patterns than we usually recognize—from the Paleolithic origins of human society and the agricultural revolution to the emergence of empires, colonialism, capitalism, and today's "Silicon Goliaths." Along the way, we discuss Madrid's Royal Palace, Montezuma and the Spanish conquest, October 7th, Donald Trump, and why understanding the past may be the key to understanding the crises of the present.At the center of our discussion is Luke's idea of the "Goliath Curse": the tendency for increasingly large and complex societies to generate extraordinary power while simultaneously becoming more fragile, unequal, and difficult to govern. We examine what made European capitalist colonialism historically unique, how the global expansion of empire transformed the planet, and whether today's technology giants represent the latest evolution of the same pattern. We also dive into the role of Dark Triad psychology in leadership, why civilizations repeatedly overextend themselves, and how power scales from kingdoms to multinational corporations.Finally, we turn to the existential risks confronting humanity in the twenty-first century. From climate change, artificial intelligence, and engineered pandemics to nuclear weapons and geopolitical instability, we ask whether modern technology is accelerating humanity toward an increasingly dangerous future—or whether history offers reasons for cautious optimism. This conversation connects archaeology, psychology, philosophy, geopolitics, and big history to ask one of the biggest questions imaginable: how did we get here, and where are we going next?00:00:00 Coming Up...00:01:36 Intro to Luke Kemp and Goliath's Curse00:09:09 Kemp To Harari, Pinker, Wengrew, Diamond00:14:08 Goliath Fuel and The Material Conditions for Domination00:18:59 Are Goliath's Inevitable? And The Indus Valley Exception00:21:27 Paleolithic Anti Dominance Strategies00:24:06 Is Collapse Actually Good?00:29:09 Did We Choose Goliaths?00:32:50 Dark Triad Psychology00:38:34 Romanticizing the Paleolithic00:43:47 Drought and Climate Change As the Final Nail?00:49:05 European Capitalist Colonialism As A Supercharged Global Goliath00:55:45 The "Nation State" As Empire?00:59:43 Collaborators Of The Goliath01:03:00 The World Wars of the 20th Century and Global Goliath Stumbling01:08:07 The Silicon Goliath and Climate Change01:14:16 Do All Goliath's Collapse?01:20:15 Slaying Goliath Through Democracy or Anarchy01:29:30 The Surveillance of Goliath and Distrust of Ourselves01:34:56 Human Agency... Even of Our Own Death?01:41:13 Outro and Luke's Next BookBECOME A MEMBER - MONTHLY MEMBERS ONLY LIVESTREAM https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NIku35U9thGG9WBJjE0sw/joinFor more from Jay visit whatjaythinks.com

Michael Sawyer is the author of The Door of No Return, a sweeping work that challenges conventional ideas about race, history, memory, and modernity. In this conversation, we explore his concept of anti-Blackness as something deeper than prejudice or discrimination—an organizing logic embedded within the modern world itself. Sawyer explains why the Middle Passage remains central to understanding contemporary society, dismantles Hegel's philosophy of history, critiques the limitations of Négritude and Afro-pessimism, and introduces the idea of "rememory" as a radically different way of relating to the past.We also discuss the killing of Elijah McClain, the evolution of Ta-Nehisi Coates' writing after Palestine, and Sawyer's deeply personal reflections on racism, including experiences growing up and playing basketball. Along the way, we examine how Shakespeare's Macbeth, the music of Bob Marley, and the lyrics of The Notorious B.I.G. illuminate questions of violence, identity, power, and survival in ways that philosophy often cannot.This is an expansive conversation connecting literature, history, music, politics, and lived experience. Whether unpacking the legacy of slavery, questioning the assumptions of Western philosophy, or imagining what might exist beyond the structures of anti-Blackness, Michael Sawyer offers a powerful framework for thinking about the past—and what a genuinely different future could look like.00:00 Coming Up...01:27 Intro to Sawyer & Why Bob Marley Is Doing Philosophy08:41 Paralysis & The Anti-Black World After the Middle Passage14:14 The Diagram That Explains the Entire Book21:55 W.E.B Du Bois & What Hegel Got Wrong About History27:17 The Free Throw Line as The Racial Bursting Apart36:44 What Is The Title of This Book... Actually?39:19 Tackling Hegel's Philosophy & Where it Fails To Be About Blackness51:25 The Murder of Elijah McClain1:02:50 Sawyer Illuminates The Words of McClain In The Anti-Black World1:09:10 Slavery's Afterlife and Anti-Blackness as Gravity1:14:00 Whitey On The Moon and Who Gets To Participate in Language Architecture1:23:25 Mick Jagger Couldn't Clap Along to Aretha1:30:38 Your Oppression Will Not Save You and Why Ta-Nehisi Coates Changed1:37:55 Final Thoughts and Upcoming GuestsBECOME A MEMBER - MONTHLY MEMBERS ONLY LIVESTREAM https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NIku35U9thGG9WBJjE0sw/joinFor more from Jay visit whatjaythinks.com

In this essay, I respond to Sam Harris's recent comments on Israel, Gaza, Hamas, and why he refuses to debate many of his critics. My argument is not primarily about genocide, proportionality, international law, or even the details of Israel's military response. It is about something more fundamental: the framing of violence itself.Sam Harris often frames Hamas and similar movements as expressions of jihadism—forms of violence rooted primarily in religious belief, metaphysical commitments, and interpretations of sacred texts. If that framing is accepted, then the moral conversation largely becomes a discussion about how to manage or contain a dangerous ideology. But what happens if that framing is incomplete? What if history, colonialism, dispossession, and resistance are not peripheral details but central parts of the story?Drawing on examples from anti-colonial struggles around the world, Zionist historical sources, and broader questions about moral reasoning, I explore why historical context matters when evaluating violence. The question is not whether violence is horrific—it always is. The question is whether our explanation of that violence determines the moral conclusions we reach before the discussion even begins.Pre-order my upcoming book: *Insufficient Rewards: How We Traded Integrity for Comfort and Outsourced Morality*https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Insufficient-Rewards/Jay-Shapiro/9781803419985#SamHarris #Gaza #IsraelPalestine #Philosophy #History #Colonialism #Zionism #MiddleEast #Politics #EthicsBECOME A MEMBER - MONTHLY MEMBERS ONLY LIVESTREAM https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NIku35U9thGG9WBJjE0sw/joinFor more from Jay visit whatjaythinks.com00:00 Another Response to Sam Harris00:20 The Jihadism Framework02:34 Why This Leads to "Mowing the Lawn"04:59 Why Critics Can't Reach Harris07:36 The Real Disagreement: Framing Violence09:15 Can the Jihadism Frame Be Challenged?11:23 Harris's "Five Myths About Gaza" Give Away The Game & The Colonialism Question14:20 Resistance, Religion, and History and Intertwined Ideas and Motives16:53 What Zionist Sources Actually Say19:00 Reframing Hamas as Resistance Plus Other Things20:38 What Changes If The Frame Changes? & Why History Matters23:00 Peace As Emergent Property of Justice Pursued24:43 Why Genocide Debates Miss The Point26:32 Preorder My New Book

For decades, the word "genocide" has occupied a unique place in international law, collective memory, and political debate. But what exactly does it mean—and has the definition become too narrow to describe the forms of violence we witness today? In this conversation, Holocaust and genocide scholar Dirk Moses joins me to discuss the crisis unfolding within genocide studies, the fierce disputes over how the term should be defined, and why debates about Gaza have exposed deep fractures in academia, international institutions, and public discourse.We explore the controversy surrounding Moses's influential essay on Germany's "catechism," the role Holocaust memory plays in shaping political culture, and whether modern societies have become trapped by an understanding of evil that struggles to recognize violence outside familiar historical frameworks. Along the way, we discuss Anne Frank and Hind Rajab, the stigma attached to genocide accusations, colonial violence, the ICC and ICJ, and the growing generational divide over how atrocities are remembered and understood.Most importantly, we examine a little-known proposal put forward by the Dutch delegation during the drafting of the UN Genocide Convention in 1948. The proposal attempted to address what its authors called "camouflaged genocide"—forms of destruction that operate indirectly and may not fit neatly into the legal framework that ultimately emerged. Moses argues that revisiting this forgotten history may offer a way to repair a definition many scholars now see as increasingly inadequate. Whether you agree or disagree with his conclusions, this discussion raises fundamental questions about memory, law, history, and the language we use to describe humanity's gravest crimes.Pre-order my upcoming book: *Insufficient Rewards: How We Traded Integrity for Comfort and Outsourced Morality*https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Insufficient-Rewards/Jay-Shapiro/9781803419985BECOME A MEMBER - MONTHLY MEMBERS ONLY LIVESTREAM https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NIku35U9thGG9WBJjE0sw/joinFor more from Jay visit whatjaythinks.com00:00:00 Coming Up...00:01:52 Intro To the Genocide Tug-o-War00:11:34 The State of Genocide Studies Now00:15:20 Dirk Touched The Third Rail In Germany00:21:32 The Five Elements of the Catechism00:24:32 The Problems of Genocide And Can Something Be Worse?00:28:32 Israel Testimony Of Genocide00:33:24 The Stigma Of Genocide00:37:07 Las Casas on the Devastation of the Indies and Language of Outrage00:41:24 The Word As Advocacy or Legal Crime00:47:15 The Question of Intent The Rohingya and Gaza00:52:05 What The Court Says And Hind Rajab And Anne Frank01:01:34 The Symbolic Term And The Focus on Palestine01:07:18 The ICC Trial Israel Didn't Want To See01:13:52 Convincing People They Aren't Free And Hamas's Undemocratic Choice To Act01:18:55 Camouflaged Genocide The Key To the Door01:27:44 Proving Camouflaged Genocide As A TestBECOME A MEMBER - MONTHLY MEMBERS ONLY LIVESTREAM https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NIku35U9thGG9WBJjE0sw/joinFor more from Jay visit whatjaythinks.com

Born in Iran in 1974, just years before the Iranian Revolution transformed the country forever, Trita Parsi has spent his life at the intersection of some of the most consequential political conflicts of the modern era. In this conversation, we trace his journey from childhood in pre-revolutionary Iran to exile and life in Sweden, exploring how displacement, identity, and history shaped his understanding of power, nationalism, and the Middle East. Along the way, we discuss the rise of the Islamic Republic, the experience of the Iranian diaspora, and how growing up between cultures influenced his worldview.From there, the conversation turns to Israel, Zionism, American foreign policy, and the decades-long struggle to reshape the political order of the Middle East. Parsi reflects on the assumptions that have guided policymakers in Washington and Tel Aviv for generations, the repeated efforts to isolate or transform Iran, and why so many of those strategies failed to produce the outcomes their architects expected. We explore the deep historical roots of today's conflicts, the changing balance of power in the region, and the gap between political rhetoric and geopolitical reality.Finally, we look ahead. What happens when the world's most powerful countries fail to achieve their stated goals? What new order emerges from that failure? Has the era of unchallenged American influence come to an end? And what does the future hold for Iran, Israel, the United States, and the wider world? This conversation is not only a look back at one remarkable life, but also an attempt to understand a historic turning point whose consequences will shape the decades ahead.00:00 Coming Up01:05 Intro to Trita Parsi 05:08 Parsi Born Into a Political Earthquake in Iran07:17 Growing Up In Sweden And Accepting It08:31 An Enemy of the Shah and The Islamic Republic10:06 Not Going Back To Iran13:48 What Don't We Get About 1979?18:01 The Simmering Revolution, Delayed By Intervention22:05 Dispersed Power of the Islamic Republic24:52 Iran's Incentives For Prolonging War28:40 Israel's Intentions Revealed About Turning Iran Back34:00 What About the Iranian Women's Freedom?40:48 Does Iran Care About the Palestinians?44:16 Zionism And Israel's Capacity Problem of Friends and Enemies47:01 Zionism Is The Problem47:57 The New Reality for the GCC and Saudi52:03 Who Would Be The Problem Then?52:47 Like, Subscribe, Share, Comment, And Next GuestsBECOME A MEMBER - MONTHLY MEMBERS ONLY LIVESTREAM https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NIku35U9thGG9WBJjE0sw/joinFor more from Jay visit whatjaythinks.com

In round two with Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro, the conversation expands far beyond politics into morality, theology, identity, and the strange psychological world created by modern Zionism. We explore the deep divide between Judaism as a religious covenant and Zionism as a nationalist political project, asking whether the modern state of Israel fundamentally transformed — or even replaced — Judaism for millions of Jews in the diaspora. Along the way we discuss figures like Benjamin Netanyahu and Itamar Ben-Gvir, the rise of religious nationalism in Israel, and why some Orthodox rabbis see Zionism not as the fulfillment of Judaism but as a revolt against it.The discussion also turns surprisingly personal and philosophical. We debate veganism, eating animals, moral obligation, atheism, divine command theory, and whether morality comes from God, reason, empathy, or something deeper built into consciousness itself. Rabbi Shapiro lays out the highly legal and covenantal logic of traditional Judaism, while I push from a humanist and philosophical perspective shaped more by moral intuition and existential questions than religious law. What follows is not a hostile debate but a genuinely curious and wide-ranging exchange about free will, suffering, identity, tradition, and the uncomfortable contradictions many modern Jews feel when trying to separate Judaism from Israel.We also get into antisemitism, pro-Palestine activism, Holocaust memory, diaspora identity, and the growing confusion around what words like “Jew,” “Zionist,” and “anti-Zionist” even mean anymore. Can someone reject Zionism without rejecting Jews? Did Zionism “steal” Judaism and redefine Jewish identity around nationalism and the state? Why do so many secular Jews feel trapped inside an identity they no longer religiously believe in? And what happens when a centuries-old spiritual tradition becomes fused to military power and ethnic politics? It’s a dense, funny, provocative, and deeply philosophical conversation that moves from Talmudic reasoning to modern propaganda, from theology to vegan ethics, and from suburban American Judaism to the crisis unfolding in Israel and Palestine today.For more from Jay visit whatjaythinks.com 00:00:00 Coming Up…00:01:43 Roadmap To the Conversation00:05:28 A Strange Debate About Veganism and the Jewish God00:07:53 Golda Meir’s Masada Complex00:13:25 Dear Palestine, on Jewish Pacifism and the IDF00:18:35 Amalek and Canaan00:25:40 Interpretation of Texts00:29:06 How Flexible are the Texts00:37:41 How Popular Are His Views? Can You Tell By Looking?00:47:00 The Zionists Have A Country, What Do We Have?00:53:49 The Illusion of Zionism00:59:12 Real Jews and Rabbi Shach01:03:31 Palestine or Zionism? The Moral Character of the Jewish God01:09:59 1967 and The Diaspora Jew01:13:53 Jonathan Pollard and the Diaspora Jew01:21:11 DEBATE: Is Judaism Pacifist?01:28:02 David Hume, the Is-Ought Problem, and the Uncaused Cause01:34:07 God, Perfection, and Free Will01:41:03 Child Drowning in a Shallow Pond01:47:33 Humanism, Veganism, and Human Access to the Oughts01:54:40 If the Theology is Right The Slaughterhouse Disgust is a misguided Feeling01:58:08 Rabbi’s Daughter Stopped Eating Chicken02:01:13 Feelings Versus Theology And the God Question02:06:43 Why Is There Something… Moral? And Literal Torah02:13:13 Why Does This Moral Grounding Difference Matter?02:17:26 Rabbi Calls Me Authoritarian02:18:16 Rabbi Choses Veganism All Things Being Equal02:25:07 Rabbi’s 51st State Solution Actually Ends Yaakov’s Problem02:27:53 Alex Hershaft Holocaust Survivor Turned Animal Rights Activist02:29:14 OUTRO Moral Philosophy Response - Steel manning God02:33:53 What Humanism Actually Means02:39:30 Strange Bedfellows Against Zionism

In this conversation, Holocaust survivor Stephen Kapos reflects on surviving Nazi-occupied Hungary, the trauma of the Holocaust, and why he believes Israel’s actions in Gaza amount to genocide. Kapos describes the terrifying atmosphere of Budapest in 1944, the yellow star houses, the deportations to Auschwitz, and his family’s connection to the infamous Kastner rescue train, one of the most morally controversial episodes of the Holocaust. Together, we unpack the legacy of Rudolf Kastner, the negotiations with Adolf Eichmann, Bergen-Belsen, and the impossible moral dilemmas faced by European Jews under Nazi rule.But this conversation goes beyond history. We explore how the Holocaust shaped Zionism and the creation of a “new Jew” in early Israel, one that rejected weakness, compromise, and even many Holocaust survivors themselves. Kapos explains why some survivors became fiercely nationalistic while others, like him, came to see the dehumanization of Palestinians as a tragic repetition of history. We discuss Hannah Arendt, the Eichmann trial, the discrimination Holocaust survivors faced in Israel, and the psychological transformation of trauma into permanent militarization and fear.This is not a simple conversation, and it is not always comfortable. It is about memory, nationalism, survival, collaboration, propaganda, and the moral weight of history. Whether you agree or disagree, Stephen Kapos offers a perspective that is increasingly rare: a firsthand witness to the Holocaust speaking openly about Gaza, Zionism, and the lessons he believes humanity failed to learn. If this conversation matters to you, please like, subscribe, and share it so these stories are not lost.00:00 — Coming Up...01:21 — Intro Essay: Why This Conversation Matters06:18 — The Story of Rudolf Kasztner & the Rescue Train09:22 — The Moral Dilemma of the Kasztner Deal11:47 — Eichmann, Hannah Arendt & the “Banality of Evil”18:00 — Interview: Why Stephen Speaks Out at 88 Years Old22:15 — Nazi Occupation of Hungary & the Fall of Budapest28:13 — Jewish Life in Hungary Before the Holocaust30:22 — Why Stephen’s Family Rejected Zionism34:33 — Adolf Eichmann Arrives in Hungary38:45 — Who Was Rudolf Kastner?42:30 — “Blood for Goods”: Negotiating With the Nazis44:29 — Inside the Kasztner Holding Camp Columbus Street Camp46:35 — Escaping the Holding Camp & Going Into Hiding47:47 — Bergen-Belsen & Waiting for Switzerland51:14 — Hiding From the Nazis in Hungarian Villas53:31 — Was Kastner a Hero or a Collaborator?56:45 — Why Holocaust Survivors Were Discriminated Against in Israel59:32 — Stephen Kapos on Kastner’s Guilt01:02:55 — How Trauma Turned Into Israeli Nationalism01:04:30 — Fear, Propaganda & the Creation of Racism01:06:18 — “I Was Just Happy to See a Jewish Soldier”01:08:13 — When Zionism Became Impossible to Defend01:09:03 — Gaza, Dehumanization & the Failure to Learn From History01:11:35 — Trauma Loops and Seeing Nazis Everywhere01:15:22 — Germans Platoons Avoiding Children01:19:20 — Stephen Kapos On Hope And What Has Changed01:22:00 — Become A Monster To Avoid Monster01:25:00 — Why Are The Palestinians So Forgiving?01:27:40 — Palestinians Understand The Holocaust01:31:07 — "I Am Not Risking Anything At This Stage"01:32:28 — Outro And Next GuestBECOME A MEMBER - MONTHLY MEMBERS ONLY LIVESTREAM https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NIku35U9thGG9WBJjE0sw/joinFor more from Jay visit whatjaythinks.com