Update: June 5, 2020:

Three years ago, we started this episode of the podcast by saying; not talking about racism is not a solution. We sought to have a conversation about dismantling racism in education after a Heinemann Fellows panel on the subject.

As we listen to this conversation through the lens of 2020, it’s now not enough to talk about dismantling racism, rather we must take actions to be anti-racist. This podcast features authors Sara K. Ahmed, author of Being the Change, Dr. Sonja Cherry-Paul, who most recently co-wrote Breathing New Life into Book Clubs and the educator’s guide to Stamped: Racism, Antiracism, and You, and Cornelius Minor, author of We Got This. Since this conversation first aired in June of 2017, all have published books, podcasts, talks and professional development events on diversity, equity, inclusion, and being anti-racist.

Before we begin, a message to my fellow white educators: we ask you to do the work that’s necessary to disrupt whiteness and white supremacy within yourselves, your classrooms, and schools. We ask white educators to commit to doing this work now and long after the media coverage of this latest viral bout of racism.

Seek out the work of these authors and other Indigenous, Black, and other People of Color. Follow them on social media, support them by buying their work and attending their events, amplify their voices and never stop educating yourself.

Here now is our conversation from 2017 with Sara K. Ahmed, Dr. Sonja Cherry Paul and Cornelius Minor.

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