In the latest podcast, Kirk Giles and Rick Verkerk give behind the scenes insights into the upcoming Disruptive National Men's Conferences and explore what it means to be Disruptive.

Plus...

💬 How Rick came up with the saying, "why we do what we do."
🔁 A word for those who may be thinking, "been there, done that."
👦 Why you'll want to bring your son(s)/grandson(s) to the conference.