Meghan and Miranda are joined by former Rep. George Santos, fresh out after 84 days served (including 41 days in solitary confinement) with his federal sentence commuted by President Trump. He walks us through the moment-to-moment reality of prison (moldy ceilings, expired food, the “shoe”), how he coped, who helped, and why he wants to channel the experience into prison reform and case review work (a la Alice Marie Johnson).

We also hit:

Why he says he was moved to solitary & how “protective custody” works.

Mental health, re-entry, and the very relatable first shower/La Mer/skincare binge!

NY politics: NYC mayoral race, congestion pricing, Kathy Hochul’s vulnerabilities, and whether Elise Stefanik could win statewide

Culture break: J.Lo’s historic box-office flop, Katy Perry + Trudeau rumor mill, and the “diva down/diva up” jokes.

On Kamala Harris’ book & Pete Buttigieg: do voters care about identity, or competency?

P.S. Miranda’s live from Las Vegas (yes, that Flamingo sign), and the Cheryl Hines interview is up now on YouTube — thanks for the love on that one.