In this episode, Cord and Lesley talk about how history’s lessons are important, but staying present to our current moment is an effective strategy for culture change. “This is not that” helps us fine tune our threat detection system. Our own nervous system regulation can help us create order and stability, even in times of orchestrated chaos.

Join Cord and Lesley in their second episode. We take a boat metaphor to its edges when we ask: how can you be the one who remembers the life jackets? We’ll discuss the space between reaction and response; permission to be okay; and untangling feeling from belief. Thanks for listening!

This is the first episode of our Diversity Differently podcast by Sagely co-owners, Lesley and Cord. Our podcast is simple: informal conversations about culture change, social justice, and inclusive leadership. In this episode, Lesley and Cord spend 16 minutes discussing what it is to grieve well. Why does it matter? And what can it help us do in this time of transition? Thanks for listening!