Prenups get a bad rap.

And if you broach the subject with a partner, they often think you’re planning for the marriage to fail.

But what if a prenuptial agreement could help you get on the same page about money before you got married?

What if a prenup could reduce tension in your marriage and even prevent divorce?

Aaron Thomas has been named Atlanta's best divorce attorney three times, and he’s one of the nation's top experts in family law issues.

Aaron is also the founder of Prenups.com, a platform that helps couples establish a solid financial foundation before they walk down the aisle, and author of The Prenup Prescription: Meet the Premarital Contract Designed to Save Your Marriage.

On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Aaron joins Katherine to explain how prenups help couples establish a good working relationship around money.

Aaron discusses the parallels between business partnerships and marriage, challenging couples to structure their finances in a way that makes both parties feel secure.

Listen in for Aaron’s advice on approaching your significant other about creating a prenup and learn how a well-written pre- or postnuptial agreement can make your marriage stronger!

Topics Covered

How a well-written prenup helps couples reduce tension in a marriage

Why a prenup should address your finances before, during and after marriage

Aaron’s insight on the One Paycheck Rule and why it’s important

How prenups help couples establish a good working relationship around money

The parallels between forming a business partnership and getting married

Why extreme power imbalances in a marriage often lead to divorce

Aaron’s advice on deciding what money is yours, mine and ours

How to approach your significant other about creating a prenuptial agreement

What the less-moneyed spouse can do to feel protected by a prenup

The misconception that prenups are only a tool for the super-wealthy

Connect with Aaron Thomas

Prenups.com: https://prenups.com/

The Prenup Prescription by Aaron Thomas: https://prenups.com/book/

Connect with Katherine Miller

The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/

Miller Law Group: https://miller-law.com/

Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1

The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246

Email: [email protected] 

Call (914) 738-7765

If you’re considering divorce, it’s useful to do a cost-benefit analysis before you initiate the process. And think beyond the legal fees and division of property.

How much time will it take to work through the process? What's the emotional cost to you, your spouse and your children? How might it impact your career?

Raiford is CEO and Managing Partner of STG Divorce Law in Chicago and Fellow at the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers.

Raiford is also the author of the award-winning divorce book, I Just Want This Done: How Smart, Successful People Get Divorced Without Losing Their Kids, Money, and Minds.

On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Raiford joins Katherine to explain why you should get educated before you jump into a divorce.

Raiford describes how to reframe the experience of divorce as an opportunity for growth and discusses how his own divorce changed the way he approaches his work as a divorce lawyer.

Listen in for Raiford’s insight on trying alternative dispute resolution in high-conflict cases and learn how to conduct a cost-benefit analysis before you move forward with a divorce.

Topics Covered

Raiford’s advice on getting educated before you jump into divorce

Why Raiford suggests looking inward before you divorce and/or remarry

How to leverage divorce as a personal growth experience

What motivated Raiford to write the divorce book I Just Want This Done

Raiford’s personal experience with feeling lost in the process of divorce

How Raiford’s own divorce changed the way he approaches his work

Why you should still try alternative dispute resolution if your partner is uncooperative

How mediation can work better than litigation in high-conflict cases

Conducting a cost-benefit analysis before you move forward with a divorce

The first steps you should take to initiate the divorce process

Connect with Raiford Palmer

I Just Want This Done: https://www.ijustwantthisdone.com/

Raiford on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/raifordpalmer/

Raiford on X: https://x.com/raifordpalmer

Raiford on TikTok: raifordpalmer

STG Divorce Law: https://www.stglawfirm.com/

Connect with Katherine Miller

The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/

Miller Law Group: https://miller-law.com/

Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1

The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246

Email: [email protected] 

Call (914) 738-7765

Resources

I Just Want This Done: How Smart, Successful People Get Divorced Without Losing Their Kids, Money, and Minds by Raiford Palmer: https://www.amazon.com/Just-Want-This-Done-Successful/dp/1737208903

Unbreakable Husband Program: https://richinrelationship.com/

Dr. John Duffy: https://drjohnduffy.com/

Neepa Padia gave up her senior level career in India to get married and immigrate to the US.

But her partner was abusive, and Neepa wanted out. Unfortunately, she was in the country on a dependent spouse visa and had no friends, no family and no job.

How did Neepa navigate divorce as an immigrant?

Neepa is the Certified Divorce Coach behind Holistic Divorce Journey, a platform that helps immigrants in divorce with logical steps and tools toward a brighter future.

Neepa’s personal experience has shaped her into a compassionate and nonjudgmental coach, ensuring that her clients are not alone on this journey of getting divorced in a in a strange land.

On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Neepa joins Katherine to explain how her experiences as an immigrant going through a divorce inspired her to become a divorce coach.

Neepa discusses the options available to people in the US on a dependent spouse visa, describing the resources available to immigrants dealing with the emotional and logistical challenges of divorce.

Listen in for Neepa’s insight on finding culturally aligned support and learn how to leverage the holistic divorce journey to build the future you want!

Topics Covered

Neepa’s experience navigating divorce as an immigrant to the US

What inspired Neepa to build Holistic Divorce Journey

Options available to divorcing people in the US on a dependent spouse visa

What resources Neepa leaned on when she was getting divorced

Resources available to immigrants navigating divorce

The emotional and logistical challenges of divorce as an immigrant

How international assets impact equitable distribution of property in divorce

Why it’s helpful for divorcing immigrants to find culturally aligned support

Leveraging the holistic divorce journey to build the future you want

Connect with Neepa Padia

Holistic Divorce Journey: https://holisticdivorcejourney.com/

Neepa on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/holisticdivorcejourney/

Neepa’s Divorce Support Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/969925950972235/

Connect with Katherine Miller

The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/

Miller Law Group: https://miller-law.com/

Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1

The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246

Email: [email protected] 

Call (914) 738-7765

Resources

Second Saturday: https://www.secondsaturday.com/

Divorce GPS: https://divorce-gps.com/

You might assume that mediators who specialize in prenups recommend them for everyone.

But Laurie Israel is actually against prenuptial agreements for most couples.

So, when should you consider creating a prenup? And how do you write one in a fair and loving way that strengthens the new marriage?

Laurie is a collaborative lawyer and mediator based in Massachusetts, where she concentrates her practice exclusively on prenuptial and postnuptial agreements.

Laurie also writes extensively about the art of mediating prenups, and she is the author of The Generous Prenup: How to Support Your Marriage and Avoid the Pitfalls.

On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Laurie joins Katherine to explain when a prenup is a good idea and when it isn’t, discussing why it’s inappropriate to think of a marriage as a business deal.

Laurie shares her thoughts on prenups for inheritances, second marriages, and business owners, describing what to look for in a mediator to negotiate your agreement.

Listen in for Laurie’s insight on protecting both parties (not just the moneyed spouse) and learn how the right kind of prenup creates peace, certainty and fairness for all involved.

Topics Covered

Why Laurie is against prenuptial agreements for most couples

When a prenup is a good idea and how it can create peace, certainty and fairness in those cases

Why it’s inappropriate to think of a marriage as a business deal

Laurie’s advice on what to look for in a mediator to negotiate your prenup

Why Laurie suggests a prenup for second marriages and marriages involving children from previous relationships

How Laurie thinks about building a prenup or postnup for business owners

How fairness in a prenup is influenced by the laws in your particular state

When it might be appropriate to draft a postnuptial agreement

Laurie’s thoughts on the complexities of money and marriage

Laurie’s loving approach to prenups that protect both people in a marriage (not just the moneyed spouse)

How to address student loans and inheritances in a prenuptial or postnuptial agreement

Providing for the surviving spouse when a marriage ends in death

Connect with Laurie Israel

Laurie Israel Law and Mediation: https://www.laurieisrael.com/

Connect with Katherine Miller

The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/

Miller Law Group: https://miller-law.com/

Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1

The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246

Email: [email protected] 

Call (914) 738-7765

Resources

The Generous Prenup by Laurie Israel: https://www.laurieisrael.com/book/

Ten Things I Hate About Prenuptial Agreements: https://www.laurieisrael.com/ten-things-i-hate-about-prenuptial-agreements/

In the early days of her family law practice, Heather Quick noticed a troubling pattern among the women she represented.

Women often undervalued what they brought to the marriage and failed to stand up for themselves in the divorce process.

So, what can women do to change their mindset around divorce and fight for what they deserve?

Heather Quick is Founder and CEO of Florida Women’s Law Group, the only divorce and family law firm in Northeast Florida that serves women exclusively.

Consistent with her message of women's empowerment, Heather has published several books on divorce and business, including Women’s Guide to Divorce in Florida and Women’s Guide to Becoming a Successful Entrepreneur.

On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Heather joins Katherine to discuss the unique challenges facing women in divorce, from stay-at-home moms to female breadwinners.

Heather explains how women compromise on finances to protect their children and why that’s a bad idea, challenging couples to stop using their children as a negotiating tool in divorce.

Listen in to understand how entrepreneurship can help women own their financial destiny and learn how FWLG advocates for women before, during and after divorce.

Topics Covered

What inspired Heather to focus on helping women stand up for themselves in divorce

Why women tend to undervalue what they bring to a marriage

What issues affect women in particular during the divorce process

How women compromise on finances in divorce to protect their children (and why they shouldn’t)

The danger in using your children as a negotiating tool in divorce

Common issues facing female breadwinners in divorce, e.g.: custody, alimony, etc.

How Heather’s books educate and empower women before, during and after divorce

Heather’s experience working with a team of all women at Florida Women’s Law Group

How Heather benefits from having a divorce coach on her team

What motivated Heather to expand her focus to helping women excel as entrepreneurs

Connect with Heather Quick

Florida Women’s Law Group: https://www.floridawomenslawgroup.com/

Women Winning Divorce Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/685277376560289

Women Winning Divorce Podcast: https://womenwinningdivorce.com/

Connect with Katherine Miller

The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/

Miller Law Group: https://miller-law.com/

Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1

The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246

Email: [email protected] 

Call (914) 738-7765

Resources

Women’s Guide to Divorce in Florida by Heather Brooke Quick, Esq.: https://www.amazon.com/Womens-Guide-Divorce-Florida-Advantage/dp/150323326X

Is Divorce Right for You? by Heather B. Quick, Esq.: https://www.amazon.com/Divorce-Right-You-Guide-Determine-ebook/dp/B00NH2QK1G/

Women’s Guide to Becoming a Successful Entrepreneur by Heather B. Quick, Esq.: https://www.amazon.com/Womens-Guide-Becoming-Successful-Entrepreneur/dp/1511734655/

Julie Rountree on Divorce Dialogues: https://miller-law.com/podcast/the-missing-professional-from-a-divorce-litigation-team/

Changes to Florida’s Divorce Law: https://www.attorneylauraolson.com/an-overview-of-floridas-new-alimony-law-elimination-of-permanent-alimony/

If you’re going through a divorce, writing a love letter is probably the last thing on your mind.

But Jennifer Lee, AWMA, AIF, suggests that sharing your values and hopes for the future in a family love letter to your children is a good first step for financial planning in divorce.

So, how does a love letter help you set meaningful financial goals and make better money decisions?

Jennifer is the founder of Modern Wealth, a Sarasota-based financial firm with a focus on helping individuals in transition, and author of Squeeze the Juice: Live with Purpose, Then Leave a Legacy.

Jennifer brings a fresh perspective on the financial planning process by digging deep to understand her clients’ values and helping them use money as a tool to accomplish their dreams.

On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Jennifer joins Katherine to share the personal experience that inspired her idea for a family love letter in the financial planning process.

Jennifer explains why financial anxiety is such a common issue in the divorce process and challenges us to see money as a tool to reach our goals—not the goal itself.

Listen in to understand how Jennifer supports the ‘non-moneyed’ spouse in settlement negotiations and learn how Squeeze the Juice can help you make informed financial decisions in divorce.

Topics Covered

Why Jennifer includes writing a family love letter in the financial planning process

Thinking of money as a tool to accomplish our dreams vs. the goal itself

What drove Jennifer’s father to communicate his values in a kind of family love letter

Why anxiety around money is such a common issue in the divorce process

How Jennifer helps the non-moneyed spouse in a divorce make financial decisions

The danger in rushing through divorce negotiations because you want it to be done

What experiences inspired Jennifer to write her book, Squeeze the Juice

How your money story impacts the way you navigate financial decisions

The 2 most important chapters in Squeeze the Juice for people going through divorce

What it means to be the non-moneyed spouse in divorce (and what it doesn’t mean)

Why there’s a power imbalance in divorce negotiations for the non-moneyed spouse

Connect with Jennifer Lee

Modern Wealth: https://modern-wealth.com/

Connect with Katherine Miller

The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/

Miller Law Group: https://miller-law.com/

Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1

The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246

Email: [email protected] 

Call (914) 738-7765

Resources

Squeeze the Juice by Jennifer Lee: https://squeezethejuicebook.com/

Asking your partner for a divorce is challenging under any circumstances. But the conversation can be downright dangerous if you’re leaving an abusive spouse.

In fact, upwards of 70% of women who leave an abusive spouse are murdered.

So, what resources are available to victims of intimate partner violence? How do you mitigate the risks associated with divorcing an abuser?

Beverly Price is the driving force behind Her Empowered Divorce, a coaching practice that has supported thousands of women facing the most challenging aspects of divorce.

Beverly is also the visionary behind the Divorce Coalition, a network of divorce professionals and survivor advocates united to transform the landscape of domestic abuse.

On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Beverly joins Katherine to explore the impact of domestic abuse in divorce and explain why you shouldn’t leave an abuser without a safety plan.

Beverly discusses the benefit of having a divorce coach, describing how she offers clients education and preparation around the process to reduce their anxiety.

Listen in for Beverly’s insight into the many forms of abuse and learn how survivors of domestic partner violence can work through the divorce process safely and with adequate support.

Topics Covered

The benefit of divorce coaching that goes beyond emotional management

How education and preparation for divorce reduces the anxiety associated with the process

Why Beverly suggests hiring an attorney, financial professional and divorce coach

How Beverly’s personal experiences inform her work as a divorce coach

Divorce Coalition’s work to improve abuse survivors’ experiences in the court process

The many forms of domestic abuse, i.e.: physical, financial, sexual, legal, emotional, etc.

Why you shouldn’t leave an abuser until you have support and a safety plan

How Beverly coaches people through the conversation of asking for a divorce

The statistics re: the number of men and women who experience intimate partner violence

Beverly’s advice on documenting abuse to prepare for divorce litigation

Connect with Beverly Price

Her Empowered Divorce: https://herempowereddivorce.com/

Her Empowered Divorce Podcast: https://herempowereddivorce.com/podcast

Connect with Katherine Miller

The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/

Miller Law Group: https://miller-law.com/

Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1

The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246

Email: [email protected] 

Call (914) 738-7765

Resources

National Domestic Violence Hotline: https://www.thehotline.org/

Is your relationship causing you a great deal of stress? Do you suspect that your partner has a diagnosable mental illness?

In such a challenging situation, it’s human nature to blame the other person in the relationship. To label their behavior as wrong and ask, ‘Why won’t they change?’

But if their mental health is in question, they may not be able to change. And the better question is, ‘What is YOUR next right step?’

Judy Herman is a mental health professional and relationship wellness advocate dedicated to equipping high-achieving women in the helping professions go from trauma drama into vibrant karma.

Judy is also the host of Better Relationships, Better Life: The Podcast and author of Beyond Messy Relationships and Relationships with Purpose.

On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Judy joins Katherine to explain how her personal experience as a twice-divorced relationship therapist inspired her to write Relationships with Purpose.

Judy discusses what differentiates someone with self-centered characteristics from a diagnosable narcissist and shares questions to ask yourself if you’re married to someone with mental illness.

Listen in for Judy’s insight on shifting your attitude toward your partner from judgement to curiosity and learn strategies for staying grounded during challenging interactions in any relationship.

Topics Covered

How Judy’s own challenging relationships inspired her to write her first book

The identity crisis Judy faced as a twice-divorced relationship therapist

What differentiates someone with self-centered characteristics from a diagnosable narcissist

What questions to ask yourself if you’re married to someone with mental illness

How to shift your attitude toward your partner from judgement to curiosity

Judy’s strategies for staying grounded in challenging interactions with your partner

Why Judy suggests getting professional help if you’re feeling shame around your relationship

Judy’s deep breathing exercises for navigating intense interpersonal situations

Connect with Judy Herman

Judy’s Website: https://www.judycounselor.com/

Better Relationships, Better Life: The Podcast: https://www.judycounselor.com/podcast/

Connect with Katherine Miller

The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/

Miller Law Group: https://miller-law.com/

Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1

The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246

Email: [email protected] 

Call (914) 738-7765

Resources

Beyond Messy Relationships by Judy K. Herman: https://www.judycounselor.com/product/premier-author-signed-single-book/

Relationships with Purpose by Judy K. Herman: https://www.judycounselor.com/relationships-with-purpose/

Brene Brown: https://brenebrown.com/

My Lovely Wife in the Psych Ward by Mark Lukach: https://www.marklukach.com/book

Judy’s Relationship Stress Quiz: https://www.judycounselor.com/

Judy’s From Chaos to Calm Online Course: https://www.judycounselor.com/jumpstart-emotionally-safe-conversations/

If you aren’t fully informed about your finances in marriage, you can’t negotiate from a level playing field in divorce.

That’s why Adrienne Grace is committed to helping women with what she calls holistic financial planning.

So, what is holistic financial planning? How can it help you negotiate a realistic divorce settlement and build a plan for the future?

Adrienne is the Women’s Wealth Advocate and Holistic Financial Planner behind Transitioning Finances, a platform where she guides women and couples to successfully negotiate divorce settlements, survive financial transitions and rebuild afterward.

Adrienne has 30-plus years of experience working in every area of the financial world, and she is passionate about helping you overcome your financial challenges and move empowered into the next phase of your life.

On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Adrienne joins Katherine to discuss why the inability to communicate about money is often the cause of divorce.

Adrienne explains how she helps people understand the relative value of their assets and empowers them with the confidence to negotiate a divorce settlement.

Listen in for Adrienne’s advice on ‘talking to your honey about money’ early in the relationship and learn how to design a holistic spending and savings plan to ensure your financial security in divorce.

Topics Covered

The personal experiences that led to Adrienne’s work helping people through transitions

How Adrienne defines holistic financial planning as looking at money as it relates to your life

Why the inability to communicate about money is often the cause of divorce

Adrienne’s advice around talking to your honey about money before you get married

Why Adrienne suggests setting aside private time to talk with your partner about money

How women who are not fully informed about their finances struggle to negotiate a divorce settlement

How Adrienne helps people understand the relative value of their assets

Why it’s crucial to design a spending + savings plan with a realist view of what it costs to live

How Adrienne empowers people with the confidence to negotiate their divorce settlement

Adrienne’s experiences helping people find hidden assets in the divorce process

Connect with Adrienne Grace

Transitioning Finances: https://adriennegrace.com/

Adrienne on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/womenswealthadvocate/

Adrienne on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-rothstein-grace-cdfa/

Connect with Katherine Miller

The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/

Miller Law Group: https://miller-law.com/

Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1

The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246

Email: [email protected] 

Call (914) 738-7765

Resources

From We to Me: A Financial Guide to Divorce by Adrienne Grace: https://adriennegrace.com/adriennes-books/

I’m Divorced. Now What? by Adrienne Grace: https://www.amazon.com/Im-Divorced-Now-What-Guide/dp/B0C6W6HX5Y

Adrienne’s Blog on Talking to Your Honey About Money: https://adriennegrace.com/remarriage-living-together-second-time-around/

Adrienne’s Divorce Academy Online Course:https://adriennegrace.com/classes_and_courses/

What do you need to know about filing your taxes during or after divorce?

Are asset transfers taxable? What about alimony and child support? Who claims the children?

And what if your ex mishandled the finances and there’s tax debt you knew nothing about?

Tax Attorney Hubert Johnson is Founder of Guardian Tax Law, where he has assisted thousands of individuals and businesses dealing with IRS and state tax issues.

Hubert lectures to tax professionals in seminars and training sessions across the country and has cowritten two books on tax debt resolution.

On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Hubert joins Katherine to answer your questions around tax issues in divorce, explaining where to go for tax information if your soon-to-be-ex handled the finances.

Hubert walks us through the pros and cons of delaying divorce to file taxes jointly and discusses when asset transfers are a taxable event—and when they’re not.

Listen in for Hubert’s insight on the tax rules around alimony and child support and learn where to go for help settling tax debt in the aftermath of divorce.

Topics Covered

The pros and cons of delaying divorce to file your taxes jointly

Where to go for tax information if your ex-spouse handled the finances

How to qualify as an ‘innocent spouse’ if your partner fails to pay taxes

Why the IRS pursues both parties equally for tax debt (filing jointly)

When asset transfers are a taxable event and when they’re not

How to avoid capital gains on the sale of an asset in divorce

When the IRS respects a marital settlement agreement

Who should consider applying for ‘offer in compromise’ with the IRS

The state and federal tax rules re: alimony and child support

What to do if your ex claims the children on their taxes but shouldn’t

Connect with Hubert Johnson

Guardian Tax Law: https://guardiantaxlaw.com/

Guardian on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@guardiantaxlaw

Guardian on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/guardian-tax-law/

Connect with Katherine Miller

The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/

Miller Law Group: https://westchesterfamilylaw.com/

Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1

The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246

Email: [email protected] 

Call (914) 738-7765

Resources

IRS.gov