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Today, we are honoured to have Bayo Akomolafe with us—writer, speaker, and philosopher who brings a radically different lens to how we engage with the world’s complexities. Known for his concept of "staying with the trouble," Bayo challenges the conventional rush to fix things, urging us instead to embrace the confusion and uncertainty that arise when we encounter the limits of our knowledge.
Bayo’s journey began in Nigeria and has taken him across continents, from the trauma of personal loss to exploring the wisdom of Indigenous cultures and the profound teachings of traditional healers. Founder of The Emergence Network and author of These Wilds Beyond Our Fences, Bayo’s work calls on us to rethink how we face crises, not by offering solutions but by creating new spaces for deeper inquiry and transformation.
In this episode, Bayo shares his thoughts on decolonisation, collective responsibility, AI’s challenge to our human centrality, and the transformative power of post-activism. This is a conversation that will change how you see the world—and yourself.
In this thought-provoking conversation, Bayo Akomolafe invites us to explore the depths of uncertainty, confusion, and the beauty found within the "cracks" of our understanding. He encourages us to "stay with the trouble," using moments of confusion as opportunities for growth, rather than rushing to solve or escape them. Throughout the discussion, Bayo explores themes of decolonisation, Indigenous wisdom, and the collective responsibility we all share in times of global crisis. Reflecting on his personal journey through grief and loss, Bayo shares how moments of personal darkness often spark profound philosophical inquiry.
The conversation further delves into the impact of AI, not just on technology, but on our claims to human exclusivity. Bayo introduces the concept of post-activism, urging us to reconsider our roles in the movement for change, moving beyond traditional activism to embrace a deeper, more transformative approach.
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Sandra Colhando, co-founder of Transform Me, joins us to discuss the importance of purpose and transformation in leadership. She shares her personal journey of overcoming challenges and discovering her purpose, highlighting how moments of frustration can serve as powerful catalysts for change. Sandra explains a practical process for uncovering one's purpose, which includes identifying core values and natural talents. She provides insights into the mission of Transform Me and its role in bringing transformation to the workplace, emphasising the shift towards human-centric leadership.
In this conversation, Sandra explores the essential skills and mindset shifts leaders must adopt to thrive in today's evolving world, such as adaptability, emotional intelligence, and resilience. She delves into the challenges women face in leadership and the importance of genuine support and empowerment among women. Sandra also tackles the topic of diversity and inclusion, advocating for moving beyond tokenism to create a culture of true inclusion. Finally, she discusses the intersection of AI and human potential, encouraging listeners to embrace the opportunities AI presents and focus on creativity and meaning in their lives.
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Episode Summary: In this episode of the DNA Of Purpose Podcast, host Rebecca delves into a fascinating conversation with Nigel Mendonca, General Manager and Vice President for Asia Pacific at Smartsheet, a global leader in work management solutions. With over 20 years of experience in sales and general management across the technology industry, Nigel shares his insights on leading in an era where technology and human potential converge.
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Today, I am thrilled to welcome back the remarkable Paul Zak. Paul is a Professor at Claremont Graduate University and is ranked among the top 0.3% of most cited scientists, with over 200 published papers and more than 20,000 citations to his research.
Paul was one of the pioneering scientists to integrate neuroscience and economics into the groundbreaking field of neuroeconomics. Along the way, he has also helped establish interdisciplinary fields such as neuromanagement and neuromarketing. He has authored three popular books and is a regular TED speaker.
In this episode, we will dive into Paul's latest book: Immersion: The Science of the Extraordinary and Source of Happiness. This book uncovers the neurological foundations of extraordinary experiences, using insights from 50,000 brain measurements to guide readers on creating high-impact marketing, entertainment, training, customer, and employee experiences. It demonstrates how extraordinary experiences not only boost customer lifetime value but also provide the neurological basis for increased individual happiness.
Why is this crucial? In an era defined by disruptive trends—exponential technological progress, a fundamental shift in work dynamics, and an urgent need to address climate change—it has never been more important for purpose-driven leaders to create deeply moving and extraordinary human experiences.
Today, we will discover how to achieve this.
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00:00 Introduction to Paul Zak and the Importance of Extraordinary Experiences
05:11 Defining Immersion and its Relevance Today
08:45 The Experience Economy and the Power of Social Layer
25:29 Creating Tension for Action and Cognitive Dissonance
31:53 Differences in Immersion Experiences and the Role of Superfans
37:25 The Role of AI in Automation and Innovation
40:26 Adaptability in Remote Work
45:03 Finding Purpose through Energy and Connection
57:32 The Power of Love in Immersive Experiences
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Welcome back to the DNA of Purpose podcast! After a brief hiatus, we are thrilled to return for Season 6, bringing you the stories and insights of the world's most purpose-driven leaders. I'm especially excited about today's episode because we have the incredible Jessica Hickman with us.
As the founder and director of Bullyology and an advocate of The Upstander Movement, Jess is a global speaker and TEDx presenter who equips schools, workplaces, and community groups with the tools and strategies to create thriving, respectful environments free of bullying, harassment, and violence. The Upstander Movement is all about empowering individuals to speak out and take action against injustice and harm in their communities.
Jessica is the acclaimed author of "The Bullyologist: Breaking the Silence on Bullying" and "The Upstander Leader: How to Develop a Speak-Up Culture," which has received prestigious awards, including the RDA - Australian Career Book Awards 2023, the UK 2023 Business Book Awards, and the Australian Business Book Awards for HR & Management.
Living in regional NSW, Jessica is passionate about regional and remote education. She serves as a mentor for Regional Development Australia, is a board member for Business Orange, and co-founder of Central West Inspired Women.
Today, we'll dive into Jessica's personal journey, the challenges she faced, and how she's turning bystanders and upstanders. We’ll explore the neuroscience behind bystanding, practical strategies for creating a culture of speaking up, and Jessica’s vision for the Upstander Movement. We'll also touch on her upcoming projects and talks, including addressing bystanding in business and the emergence of the Upstander Economy.
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00:00 Introduction and the Power of One Voice
03:48 Personal Story: Workplace Bullying and Harassment
10:07 Tall Poppy Syndrome and Workplace Culture
14:32 Understanding the Bystander Effect
26:18 Advocating for Gender Equality and Addressing Domestic Violence
30:50 Inspiring Upstanders and Building Awareness
41:57 The Bystander Matrix: Ethical, Cultural, Social, Environmental
52:31 The Three E's of Leadership: Empathy, Ethics, Equality
55:46 Love and Compassion in the Workplace
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If you're a returning listener, you'll recall our conversation with Andrew Leitch, the co-founder of Brave Spaces. Today, we're privileged to introduce the other visionary behind this venture – Jacinta McDonnell.
Jacinta's journey is nothing short of extraordinary. As one of Australia’s foremost entrepreneurs, she has carved her path with unparalleled success. Yet, what truly distinguishes Jacinta is her remarkable ability to delve deep within herself, employing a repertoire of mindset tools to create brave spaces that empower individuals, cultures, and communities.
Her entrepreneurial acumen came to the fore in 2008 when she pioneered the launch of Anytime Fitness in the Australian market alongside her brother, Justin. Under their stewardship, Anytime Fitness burgeoned into Australia's premier health club chain, boasting over 500 clubs nationwide. But Jacinta's pursuits extend beyond business – she is a purpose-driven visionary committed to leveraging commerce for the greater good. From 2015 to 2020, she helmed The Human Kind Project, a non-profit foundation catalysing life-altering initiatives in Africa and India.
Continuing her quest to redefine business, purpose, and leadership, Jacinta now channels her wisdom through keynote speaking engagements, coaching endeavours with A Founder’s Path, and her latest venture, Brave Spaces. This innovative platform offers transformative programs and experiences designed to empower individuals to lead purposeful, authentic lives.
In today's conversation, Jacinta and I delve into the essence of self-awareness, a cornerstone of effective leadership and personal growth. Together, we unravel the intricacies of courage, self-regulation, connection, and purpose, illuminating pathways for integrating pivotal moments into a life of fulfilment and meaning.
Ultimately, this conversation embodies the essence of Jacinta's ethos – a rare blend of achievement and humility, of success and service. It's a testament to her unwavering dedication to igniting human progress and fostering a more beautiful world for us all.
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In today's fast-paced world, the urgency of transitioning towards renewable energies is more apparent than ever. The latest report from the International Energy Agency reveals a staggering surge in renewable electricity capacity with solar leading the charge. This data underscores the imperative driving this global shift—a necessity rooted in hard data and undeniable momentum.
But amidst these groundbreaking advancements, one question remains: How can we make these innovations accessible and affordable for all? Today, we'll explore a solution that not only addresses this challenge but also offers a compelling path towards a sustainable future.
Our guest today, Dean Spaccavento, co-founder of Reposit Power, has pioneered a solution that proves it's cheaper to save the world than to ruin it. Reposit Power's innovative approach integrates solar power, batteries, and a shared network of energy, providing sustainable and cost-effective solutions to power up homes and communities.
In my conversation with Dean, we unlock his determination to shed light on the urgency of addressing climate change. We delve into the historical evolution of electricity and the remarkable progress made in embracing renewable energy sources. Dean explains how Reposit Power's groundbreaking technology moves electricity efficiently across time and space, meeting consumer needs while transforming communities on a global scale.
But we don't stop there. Dean shares insights on the role of renewable energy in underprivileged areas, the challenges and opportunities of solar energy adoption, and the transformative potential of skipping centralised infrastructure. We also explore the changing sentiments towards the climate crisis, entrepreneurship's vital space between and social impact, the future of electric cars, and venture into the cutting edge of emerging technologies shaping the energy industry's future.
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00:00 Introduction and Purpose
03:30 Personal Journey and Purpose
09:19 Historical Evolution of Electricity
16:10 Progress in Embracing Renewable Energy
24:30 Technical Aspects and Benefits of Reposit Power
27:10 Shared Network and Community Power
28:48 Global Potential of Reposit Power
29:08 Access to Power in Underprivileged Areas
30:19 The Inconvenience of Solar Energy
31:13 Opportunity to Skip Centralized Infrastructure
32:11 The Role of Technology in Helping Economies Catch Up
33:18 Changing Sentiments in Relation to the Climate Crisis
34:19 The Need for Leadership and Incentives to Address Climate Change
35:50 Finding the Space In Between in Entrepreneurship
38:37 The Role of Reposit Power in EV Charging Infrastructure
42:46 Collaboration Between Reposit Power and Car Manufacturers
44:52 Emerging Technologies and Trends in the Energy Industry
47:45 Reposit Power's Goals and Milestones
51:54 The Importance of Recognizing New Technology
53:43Creating Certainty in Energy Solutions
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Today, we're delving into a vital question: What does it truly take to cultivate a purpose-driven, human-centric workplace where every individual's potential is not just acknowledged, but actively nurtured and celebrated?
While it may seem obvious that organisations would prioritise a human-first approach, the reality often falls short, with investment in employee development typically reserved for executives, leaders, and high potentials, leaving many behind.
So, as leaders, how do we dismantle outdated hierarchies to ensure that every individual's unique and shared potential is realised?
How do we embrace a more inclusive, purposeful, egalitarian view of our colleagues and co-workers?
And how can technology empower us to ignite all of the above?
To shed light on these questions, we're thrilled to welcome Fiona Vale and Paul Rush, the co-founders of Humanico, who are revolutionising how organisations cultivate their most valuable asset—their employees. Over the last year, Paul and Fi have navigated the unpredictable waves of startup life, gearing up for expansion after a series of successes. They secured nearly $1 million in Seed funding last year and were honoured with the Burning Heroes Award for Global Reach in November. This year, they're poised to expand Humancio's mission globally.
So Humanico's solution is a Human Map - which stands as the world's first digital interactive map of employees. This cloud-based platform visualises employee capabilities and engagement levels in a dashboard, providing data-driven insights that empower executives to optimise their workforce effectively.
With disengaged employees costing organisations trillions of dollars in lost productivity annually and workplaces struggling to keep pace with evolving trends, Humanico's AI-powered talent management platform offers a promising solution to enhance employee engagement and retention in today's competitive talent landscape.
Having Paul and Fi join me in the studio was an absolute joy as we explored a range of topics, from unlocking human potential to driving organisational transformation with a people-first approach. Our conversation spanned purpose, diversity, and inclusion, as well as the transformative potential of community building.
We also examined the surprising ways in which AI and technology can amplify human connection and experience. Throughout our discussion, Fi and Paul shared invaluable insights and highlights from their remarkable entrepreneurial journey. I'm confident you'll find this conversation as enlightening as I did. Welcome to another episode of the podcast.
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00:00 Introduction and Purpose
04:03 Fiona Vale's Journey to Humanico
08:27 Paul Rush's Journey to Humanico
13:57 Challenges in Human Asset Management
23:17 Embracing Mindset Shifts in a Changing Workplace
28:17 Leveraging Agile Frameworks for Human Performance
37:22 Building Internal Communities and Tribes
40:25 The Power of Communities and Positive Psychology
42:06 Data-Driven Decision Making and Intelligent Intuition
42:32 Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging
45:48 Recognizing Diversity of Thought
47:43 Understanding Thought Process through Clifton Strengths Assessment
49:28 Playing to Strengths and Building Trust
53:13 Amplifying the Human Experience with AI
58:17 The Nature of Human Purpose and Meaning in the Workplace
01:03:46 Seamless Integration of Mergers and Acquisitions
01:11:05 Navigating the Challenges of Being a Female Co-founder
01:19:03 The Importance of Timing and Embracing Individual Identity
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Today's guest is Mange Kumarasamy and he is the co-founder of Climate Team. Climate Team is a platform that brings together businesses, freelancers, investors and enthusiasts who are committed to reversing climate change. They provide a way for startups and scale-ups to connect with qualified freelancers and motivated investors, and provide opportunities for all of these people to be the change our planet needs.
Today Mange and I explore the full spectrum of how you can become the solution, how you can join a community or incredible solution maker and we look at the levers igniting a solutions economy where the brands that will win, will be the brands that care about creating a greener future.
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00:00 Introduction and Purpose
03:16 Asking Powerful Questions
05:29 Transition to Climate Advocacy
06:16 Climate Education and Emotional Connection
09:31 Individual Action in Climate Change
11:36 Maintaining Community Engagement
19:00 Balancing Business and Environmental Footprint
23:53 Mindset Shift and Business Expansion
25:01 Slowing Down Growth and Building Better
31:51 Origin Story of Climate Team
33:12 Introduction to Climate Team
34:08 Advice for Entrepreneurs
36:49 Transitioning to the Climate Space
39:14 Using Existing Skillsets in the Climate Space
40:13 Empowering People to Own Their Voice
41:12 Supporting Startups and Freelancers in the Climate Space
43:29 Parenting and Preparing Children for the Future
44:09 Innovative Solutions and Services in the Climate Space
52:23 Bridging the Gap Between Scientific Awareness and Public Discourse
55:59 Embracing Inconvenience for the Planet
58:22 Finding Climate Team and More Information
01:00:15 Appreciation for Community Building
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Julie Masters has spent her career decoding influence. As an award-winning, leading authority in the speaking world, she has earned a reputation for launching and advising some of the world's most respected thought leaders. She is the Founder and CEO of Influence Nation, working with business leaders and organisations to become the voice of authority in their space, and she is also the host of the iTunes Top 50 podcast Inside Influence.
In this conversation, Julie Masters discusses the power of influence and the stories we tell ourselves. She shares insights from her podcast interviews and highlights the importance of facing criticism and overcoming self-doubt. Julie emphasizes the need to develop certainty and confidence, as well as the process of mastery. She also explores the concept of duende and the role of self-stories in shaping our influence. Ultimately, Julie believes that by rewriting our stories and embracing our true potential, we can elevate our influence. Jules also highlights the role of trust in building and maintaining influence, as well as the need to decode the road forward and simplify complex ideas. She shares insights on staying ahead of change and the importance of finding our own translators to stay informed. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the power of our voice and the impact it can have on others.
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00:00:00 Introduction and Trust
00:01:26 Inside Influence Podcast
00:03:19 The Right Message at the Right Time
00:04:14 The Big Leap to Zone of Genius
00:05:06 The Power of Influence
00:06:06 The Upper Limit Problem
00:07:06 Facing Criticism and Fear
00:08:04 The Stories We Tell Ourselves
00:09:29 The Power of Influence
00:10:28 Developing Certainty and Confidence
00:11:51 The Power of Stories
00:13:10 Overcoming Self-Doubt
00:14:39 The Process of Mastery
00:15:26 The Power of Criticism
00:18:15 Separating Self from Performance
00:19:40 The Feeling of World-Class
00:23:32 The Power of Stories
00:24:28 Decoding Influence and Movements
00:26:45 The Stories We Tell Ourselves
00:28:44 The Power of Self-Stories
00:29:14 The Concept of Duende
00:31:37 Overcoming the Fear of Who We Are
00:34:00 Rewriting Our Story
00:34:41 Changing the Story and Taking Congruent Action
00:42:11 The Importance of Trust in Influence
00:46:00 Decoding the Road Forward
00:53:18 Staying Ahead of Change
00:56:38 Fast Five Questions
01:02:54 The Power of Your Voice
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The DNA Of Purpose Podcast uniquely weaves together personal growth, transformational processes, entrepreneurial thinking, and…
In every episode, our trailblazing guests, representing diverse backgrounds and experiences, exemplify a shared dedication to leaving a lasting, positive imprint on the world—contributing more than they take and shaping an enduring legacy for future generations. Hosted by Rebecca Maklad, a fearless truth-seeker, the podcast provides unfiltered insights into the unfolding paths of these purpose-driven individuals. It offers a deep exploration into what it takes to ignite human progress, facilitate ecological restoration, and innovate solutions to address global challenges.
Takeaways: Uncover Your Life's Purpose and Unlock Your Full Potential | Explore Personal Development and Cultivate a Growth Mindset with Expert Tips | Nurture Self-Awareness for Personal Growth and Transformative Change | Guiding Tips on Becoming a Purpose-Driven Entrepreneur and Inspiring Leader | Unlocking the Potential: Grasping the ‘Circular’ Solutions Economy | Learn how to create businesses that make a positive impact on society | Discover key strategies for building sustainable and socially conscious enterprises.
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