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Do Better Pod Live Oct 2024: Motivational Interviewing with Callie Plattner


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In this episode, Dr. Megan and Joe interview Callie Plattner about Motivational Interviewing!


AI SUMMARY FROM FATHOM

Key Takeaways
- Motivational interviewing (MI) is an evidence-based communication approach that can significantly enhance therapeutic relationships and outcomes in behavior analysis
- MI skills (OARS: Open-ended questions, Affirmations, Reflections, Summaries) require intentional practice but can be transformative for client interactions
- Recent research shows strong social validity for integrating MI into ABA training and practice, addressing known skill deficits in therapeutic alliance building
Topics
Background and Relevance of MI in ABA
- Multiple recent studies (2018-2023) highlight BCBAs' lack of skills in building therapeutic relationships
- Less than 6% of surveyed BCBAs had practical training in MI-related skills during education
- MI has extensive evidence base in other helping professions (e.g., addiction treatment, healthcare)
- Key MI outcomes align with ABA needs: increased treatment adherence, goal clarity, session attendance
Core MI Skills (OARS)
- Open-ended questions: Elicit detailed responses beyond yes/no (e.g., "Tell me about your weekend")
- Affirmations: Recognize client strengths and efforts (e.g., "You're clearly a dedicated parent")
- Reflections: Demonstrate active listening and check understanding (e.g., "It sounds like you're worried about...")
- Summaries: Synthesize key points and transition topics
Implementing MI in ABA Practice
- Pause before offering solutions; ask additional questions and reflect to ensure full understanding
- Use OARS flexibly, not necessarily in order
- Practice in various contexts (e.g., emails, casual conversations) to build fluency
- Adjust approach based on individual client communication preferences
Research and Training Developments
- 100% of BCBAs in a study agreed MI skills should be developed in the field
- Organizations like Mosaic Pediatric Therapy integrating MI into staff training and onboarding
- Growing number of ABA-specific MI resources and conference presentations emerging
Next Steps
- Attendees encouraged to explore MI resources shared during session (articles, books, recorded trainings)
- Consider attending upcoming MI workshops (e.g., Stone Soup Conference, Maryland ABA in December)
- Potential future Do Better workshop on MI with Callie Plattner in 2025
- Field to continue work on incorporating MI into ABA coursework, fieldwork, and continuing education


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