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Luka Jones (Best Friends Forever, Up All Night) talks about the rise of people having passionate, angry arguments in areas where they have no expertise! Why is that? We talk about it. Also, Will discusses Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintanence and Anthony discusses the strengths of a little 'ol town called Burbank.

Alex Fernie (UCB's Convoy, director of Hotwives of Orlando, Children's Hospital) talks to us about the books of Elmore Leonard. We get into how Elmore's book's grab you, how great the characters and dialogue are, the problems with the movie adapations, Elmore's famous 10 rules for writers, and other stuff! Also, Will discusses the Johnny Cash album At Folsom Prison and Anthony gets really into smart thermostats. Elmore Leonard's page on Goodreads Elmore Leonard's 10 rules for writers First lines of all Elmore Leonard books Original article that inspired Pain and Gain Johnny Cash's At Folsom Prison Nest Smart Thermostat

Kate Spencer (VH1) tells us about her lifelong love of famed jam band Phish. We include some exceprts Phish songs in this podcast, and we need to mention two things: Phish songs are very long and deliberately have slow starts --- we tried to excerpt enough of the song to get a taste for that but ultimately an excerpt falls somewhat short of listening to an entire track. Also, we told Kate that any comments she made during the songs would not make it into the final podcast because during the live recording the tracks are quiet and we expected to replace them. BUT Kate's comments during the recording showed such enthusiasm that it seemed a more accurate descriptoin of the appeal of the band to figure a way keep them in. So you'll hear us say things like "wait! save that thought!" which turned out to be unnecessary. In addition to Phish, Anthony and Will talk a bit about their recent minor obsessions: re-discovering Kurt Vonnegut and the movie Singing In The Rain, respectively. Here's the full list of Phish songs Kate suggested we listen to in preparation for this podcast: 1. Divided Sky (my first AOL screenname is from this song!. I was at this one: Phish – The Divided Sky [Live In Brooklyn]) 2. Punch You In The Eye ( I am listening to this one now and it's so good. Phish – Punch You in the Eye) 3. Mike's Song --->I Am Hydrogen ----> Weekapaug (These are technically 3 different songs but often they all segue together and you kinda can't listen to one without the other. Like if you get a Mike's, you know Weekapaug is eventually coming and I like it best with IAH in the middle. This show has them all! Phish – Hampton/Winston-Salem '97) 4. Hood - I will cry talking about this song Phish – Harry Hood - Live LP Version - Hampton, 1998 5. The Curtain With (Phish – The Curtain With) You could also just do The Curtain, which is shorter with no jam at the end: Phish – The Curtain) This was the final song at their final show 6. I Didn't Know ( a different side of Phish!!!! Fishman plays the vaccum! Phish – I Didn't Know) 7. YEM --- Phish – You Enjoy Myself CLASSIC PHISH 8. Wolfman's Brother - always makes me so happy when they play Wolfman's Phish – Wolfman's Brother 9. Harpua Phish – Harpua - just such a weird, classic Phish song10. Phish – Fee --- The song that got me hooked when I was 14, from Junta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11. Strange Design -- I love when Page sings, and this song always makes me cry. He cried singing it at their "final show" Phish – Strange Design

Neil Casey (writer for Kroll Show, Inside Amy Schumer, SNL) talks to us about his interest in the emergency of the surveillance state, and how it affects the government, our interactions with each other and maybe even the way you interact with yourself. Co-host Anthony King talks about the preponderence of sugar in far more foods than he suspected, and other co-host Will Hines talks about the Motown songwriting team of Holland-Dozier-Holland. Some books Neil mentions: The Circle by Dave Eggers No Place To Hide by Glenn Greenwald (breaking the Edward Snowden case) The Divide by Matt Taibii (wealth gap) Building Stories by Chris Ware Also Sugar is in everything Holland-Dozier-Holland

Suzi Barrett (UCB's Sentimental Lady, Disney XD's Kirby Buckets) talks to us about treasure hunts, as she has designed several for adults to play. How many clues? What makes something too hard or too easy? What are some great ones she's made or encountered? Also, Will Hines discusses trains and Anthony King discusses Laura Ingalls (the Burbank avaitrix, not the author of the Little House series). Things we talk about in this episode: Treasure hunts in general Escape the Room, NYC Amtrak Residency Program Laura Ingalls, Burbank California aviatrix

DC Pierson (author of The Boy Who Couldn't Sleep And Didn't Have To, Crap Kingdom, co-star/writer of the film Mystery Team) tells us about Kanye West. Hosts Anthony King and Will Hines don't know much, but we cover a lot of ground, from Kanye's debut The College Dropout through his latest work Yeezus. DC also tells us when Kanye's album releases tended to coincide with huge life moments, as one's favorite artists have a way of doing. Also, Will discusses the post office and Anthony speculates if we are currently in World War III! Yeah! Songs discussed in some length: We Don't Care Through the Wire Heard 'Em Say Diamonds from Sierra Leone (remix) Can't Tell Me Nothing Runaway On Sight Bound 2

Notebooks! Day planners! Journals! Though it seems like everyone puts their planning and notes on the internet, writert Jen Krueger organizes her life with good old fashioned paper and we talk with her about what makes a notebook useful and good. Also Anthony King talks about coffee ice cubes and Will Hines rambles just a bit about Albert Brooks. Jen talked about: Baum-kuchen (good store to get Midori Traveler's Notebooks/inserts, other stationary, pens, washi tape, etc.) Bullet journal Moleskines Good subreddits: on notebooks in general and Midori in particular Kinokuniya (stationary store in Little Tokyo): Franklin Covey stuff And Anthony talked about coffee ice cubes and Will talked about Albert Brooks stand-up albums.

Kate Dippold (comedy writer - The Heat, Parks and Rec) tells us about her lifelong obsession with scaring, being scared, haunted houses, ghost tours and more. What makes a good haunted house? What's the best and most fun way to scare your live-in boyfriend? Also Anthony King talks about the Stephen Sondheim musical Assassins and Will Hines discusses the memory technique of mind palaces. Here's links to some of the things we talked about. The Exorcist When A Stranger Calls Slender Man Great Horror Campout Haunted Plays (last year's Delusion) Big Worm's Sherwood Scare And also Assassins Mind Palaces (method of loci)

Nicholas Mandernach of the UCB Theatre discusses the New York School of Poets, a group of poets from the 1950s who led a movement of plain-spoken, emotionally direct and often very funny poetry. Anthony discusses the Billy Joel song Leningrad and Will mentions the rejected books of the New Testament (especially the Acts of Paul and Thecla) -- two subjects of equal import. NY School of Poets (particularly Frank O'Hara, John Ashberry, James Schuyler) Billy Joel's Lenningrad The Acts of Paul and Thecla

Our guest this episode is actor Eugene Cordero who tells about his experience with Muay Thai fighting, a martial art from Thailand. In addition, hosts Will Hines and Anthony King tell us about their minor obsessions with, respectively, comics inker Wally Wood's 22 Panels That Always Work and Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast about World War I. For more information on the center where Eugene currently practices muay thai fighting: http://www.muaythaischoolusa.com See the movie Ong-Bak or one of its many sequels. Also check out: Wally Wood's 22 Panels That Always Work and Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast on World War I (first episode)