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DO YOU REALLY LIKE YOURSELF? ...

- During a recent conversation with a lifelong friend that got a bit deep, Keith asked his buddy if he really liked himself. That is, if he genuinely liked the person that he was. At first, his friend said yes, highlighting some of the good things that he had done and was proud of. But doing is quite different from being. So Keith asked him not to speak of deeds, but rather to consider who he was without doing anything that might be regarded as good or noble. Just who you simply are. After a quick rethink, he answered that yes, he did. Having known his friend for so many years Keith was happy that his buddy was at peace with himself. However, many people are not. "Do you really like yourself?" is a fair question, and one that Lee was particularly keen to discuss. 

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IS ROMANCE DEAD? -

... After a two-week road trip deep into New South Wales, Keith rejoins Lee in the DGMS Studio for another episode of their popular podcast DONT GET ME STARTED. This time the boys discuss the topic of romance, asking the question - is it dead? Lee, being somewhat of a romantic himself, had no hesitation in declaring that it isn't. When challenged by Lee if he was romantic, Keith confessed to possessing a small streak, although he stated that others close to him would dispute that. Lee would have been happy to talk about love romance the whole time but Keith, perhaps understandably, wanted to expand the conversation to discuss romanticism as characterised by an idealized view of reality. Keith bought a few laughs when reporting some of the names of towns and places from his trip. Names that raised a few eyebrows! 

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ANDREW TROUT

... Andrew is a quiet man who lets his doing speak for him. In short, he is one who walks the walk more than he talks. Yet his story is fascinating. With decades of competing in premier ultra events here in Australia and New Zealand, his story is one of surprising insights into a sport many of us know little about - let alone participate in ... plus endurance and personal triumphs. The events that he has participated in is quite a CV: the only person to complete three Ultra 355s, New Zealand Iron Man x 3, Port Macquarie Iron Man Australia x 9, Melbourne Iron Man x 3, and has completed the Kawana 24hr triathlon - plus many more ultra events. His story is all the more impressive when he shares details of the personal physical handicaps that he has had to overcome to be the lifelong triathlete that he is. Andrew truly is an iron man in every sense of the word, and is still competing. Inspiring.

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IS YOUR LIFE A CIRCUS? -

... Life can be messy, chaotic and sometimes overwhelming to the point that it seems to be running you and not the other way around. Keith and Lee are both busy guys with projects, the demands of responsibilities and various other concerns always on the go - and therefore agree that life, at times, is a circus. Lee confesses to having about six monkeys in his head at any one time but still manages to love the noise of it all. Keith shares that his messy headspace all too often leads him into situations that he'd rather not be in - or had chosen to enter into. Which at times makes him feel like he's under it all without any control. Lee on the other hand views whatever is thrown at him as an expression of how colourful and dynamic life is. Therefore you should embrace the circus and get right on in there as much as you can. Ideally being the ringmaster of it all, or giving it your best shot, and irrespective of how it all plays out, enjoy the ride. As always it's a lively discussion between the two of them with Lee really getting stuck into it.

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DINO HAYES and Bruce Lee's JKD

In this episode, Keith and Lee chat with Dino Hayes a respected instructor of Bruce Lee's fighting form called Jee Kune Do. While many people are familiar with Karate, Taekwondo and Judo etc, far less known is Bruce's martial art Jeet Kune Do - or JKD. When developing JKD, Bruce, guided by the influence of Taoist philosophy and the Wing Chun style of gung fu, shaped his martial art to be fluid and adaptive to the circumstances of the moment. Unlike Karate and Taekwondo, for example, which are based on set forms, JKD's openness allows the practitioner to incorporate other fighting forms into Jeet Kune Do according to whatever situation presents itself. Bruce taught Jeet Kune Do to very few. When he did, Bruce strongly emphasised that JKD's adaptive philosophy could be applied to many of life's challenges. Dino Hayes has devoted his life to teaching JKD and living it. 

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DOES CLOTHES REALLY MAKETH THE MAN/WOMAN? - 

... It's a old saying but Keith and Lee thought it was still very much relevant today. But with them both living in the sub-tropics with a long hot summers they don't get the chance very often to put on a nice collared shirt, a sharp cut of jacket or suit but mainly get around in the local attire or t/shirt, shorts and open thongs (flip flops in the USA and Jandals in New Zealand). So the saying doesn't ring that true around their part of the world. Although they confessed to the joys of putting on the best gear they can when the occasion arises. Both have lived in colder climates where the chance to step out dressed with a bit of style was something they did enjoy. Still, does looking good in smart clothes really maketh the man or the woman? Neither Keith had a definitive answer but if push came to shove they probably admitted that it certainly goes close. Which one though was the worst dresser wasn't that hard to pick. 

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IS COMPETITION HEALTHY?

... There aren't too many of us who are not competitive in some form or another. We might not show, or perhaps not fully admit it to ourselves but most likely some element of competitiveness lurks deep within. But is that a bad thing or is there positives to being competitive? Whilst that isn't necessarily a hard question, it is not that easy to answer one way or another. Well, at least that's how Keith and Lee found it. For as they discussed it they shared views from both sides. And regular astute listeners probably won't find it too difficult to pick which of the two guys might be the more competitive.

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FORGIVENESS 

... When Keith suggested discussing the topic of forgiveness for this episode, Lee jumped at it. Both guys, like so many others, have been faced with the need to either forgive - or to be forgiven. So it was one of those very relatable topics on a deep personal level. Forgiveness is one of life's most essential and dynamic functions. A real quality of being a well-rounded human being. Lee likes to do a bit of research before each podcast recording, but soon found that what he had to say flowed more from experiences and observations learned. So did Keith. But typically, they opened with some good-hearted banter that they both enjoyed before taking a deep dive. 

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IS LIFE A BURDEN, A BALL AND CHAIN?

.... For many people life is a gift to be lived to the full and enjoyed. While, for some it's a burden seemingly weighed down with commitments, responsibilities and demands that stifle freedom. Yet even that which might be seen as a ball holding you down can also be a stepping stone to make you stronger and more productive. Of course, it all comes down to your outlook, choices and circumstances. Though sometimes it's easier said than done to be positive and strong. Not everybody gets a fair run at life. This is one of those questions Keith and Lee enjoy discussing - if only Keith would stay on track. Lee has some good things to say, so at times, does have to gently steer Keith back to the topic at hand to lead an interesting discussion.  

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. On this episode Keith and Lee had planned to review the news from a newspaper. Not the internet, not a smart phone but a good old fashioned newspaper. Both had scanned through to pick out a few headlines and articles to talk about,  so were quite prepared. However, when it was time to record the podcast, the newspaper couldn't be found. Not to worry said Keith, I'll go and get today's paper. However, when looking through he noticed there wasn't that much news in it. Well, news that had a broad scope anyway. Next blooper was Lee giving Keith control of the episode as it wasn't too long before he was veering here and there bouncing off whatever took his fancy in the paper along with whatever else popped into his mind. It was fun, lively - and all Lee could do was go along for the ride. 

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