Tochi returns from his book tour as the White House collapses. He and Zell discuss the continued government shutdown, the halt in SNAP benefits, the assaults on boats around the US, the continued genocide in Gaza, and whether Graham Platner is the man we need him to be.

Check out this piece by Michelle Ellner about her concerns over Maria Corina Machado. 

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