Drawing a Dialogue

By Cathy G. Johnson + e jackson

Society & Culture Arts Education History K-12 Visual Arts

What's Drawing a Dialogue about?

A podcast discussing comics in historical + educational contexts. Updates first Friday of every month, visit comicarted.com for more.

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Drawing a Dialogue episodes:

05.03.2024
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 54: Teaching in a Comics MFA Program
Episode 54: Cathy shares all about her first year teaching in the Visual Narrative MFA program at Boston University! She talks about her new higher ed teaching experiences, how the program is structured, and personal observations of teaching K-12 vs....
04.05.2024
Drawing a Dialogue Presents, Episode 6: Seosamh (Trans Cartoonists in the DIY Scene #3)
Seosamh aka Joe is a butch trans painter, a hypertext enthusiast, and author of dark, surreal, and intimate worlds of denim, leather, and gloss. Among other projects, he and his partner Anka are proud co-authors of the ongoing sci-fi comic,...
03.01.2024
Drawing a Dialogue Presents, Episode 5: Sunmi (Trans Cartoonists in the DIY Scene #2)
Sunmi is a cartoonist whose body of work explores emotional distances and gender deviant fantasies, within a framework of queer + Korean histories and mythologies. This interview is the second of our exciting new series supporting remus’ PhD dissertation work....
12.11.2023
Drawing a Dialogue Presents, Episode 4: Emma Jayne (Trans Cartoonists in the DIY Scene #1)
Emma Jayne is an Ignatz and Prism Award-winning cartoonist. This interview is the first of our exciting new series supporting remus’ PhD dissertation work. Thank you for joining us! (Note: This episode is for mature audiences.) For episode citation: https://comicarted.com/blog/2023/12/11/drawing-a-dialogue-presents-episode-4
12.08.2023
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 53: Introducing Our New Series: Trans Cartoonists in the DIY Scene
Episode 53: On this exciting episode of Drawing a Dissertation, remus introduces our new series where we interview trans cartoonists from the DIY scene! remus shares their PhD dissertation work, their approach to research, and drops the news of our...
11.03.2023
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 52: Accessibility at Conventions
Episode 52: Using Calmer Con in Massachusetts as a case study, Cathy and remus discuss accessibility at comic conventions. Cathy shares details about the event and the superhero costume workshops she taught. What is the difference between providing accommodations for...
10.06.2023
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 51: Open Access Archives + SPX Recap
Episode 51: On this episode, remus tells us all about open access archives! What are they, why do they exist, and how can we use them? Also, Cathy and remus recap the Small Press Expo (SPX) 2023 and talk about...
07.07.2023
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 50: Movies About Cartoonists
Episode 50: In celebration of our 50th episode and our 6th anniversary, let’s go to the movies! remus and Cathy discuss movies about cartoonists; not comic book movies, but movies where cartoonists themselves are the protagonist. Funny Pages, Chasing Amy,...
06.02.2023
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 49: Award Judging + Criticism
Episode 49: Inspired by a recent situation, Cathy and remus talk about what it’s like being an award judge behind the scenes, the differences between censorship and criticism, and challenge future judges to reconsider what’s important. For episode citation: https://comicarted.com/blog/2023/6/2/drawing-a-dialogue-episode-49
02.03.2023
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 48: The Teacher Shortage
Episode 48: In this episode, Cathy and remus discuss the on-going teacher shortage in the United States. We discuss various theories on why teachers to leave the profession, such as burnout, student behavior, and moral disagreement. What is the shortage,...
12.02.2022
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 47: Comic Art Ed!
Episode 47: In this episode, Cathy shares her newly published book chapter, Comic Art Ed! Making Comics is for Everyone! She discusses the art education approach to K-12 comic book lesson development through five different pedagogical values: teamwork, ideation, literacy,...
11.04.2022
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 46: The PhD Process
Episode 46: What is the PhD process like? In this episode, remus updates us on their PhD progress, specifically sharing how the qualifying exam goes and how dissertations are written. Cathy shares why she stopped at a master’s degree. Why...
09.02.2022
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 45: Trans Representation in Comics
Episode 45: How can a drawing be transgender? Cathy and remus are joined by special guest Fi Stewart-Taylor to talk about the representation of transgender people in comics. Fi talks about what representation and inclusion is, including research into early...
08.05.2022
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 44: AIDS Activism + Comics
Episode 44: In this episode, remus discusses the way queer AIDS activists used art and comics as part of their activism during the the 1980s-1990s. They specifically talk about four art projects: the AIDS memorial quilt, work by activist group...
07.01.2022
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 43: Boys Love Manga
Episode 43: The common definition of BL, the acronym for Boys Love, is “a genre consisting of male-male romantic fictions created by women and for women in Japan, previously known as yaoi.” But is it only women? Cathy and remus...
06.03.2022
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 42: Balance + Burnout
Episode 42: A chatty episode, remus and Cathy have a conversation catching up about life! remus shares where they are in regards to academia, new jobs and healing, and Cathy talks about finding balance. Also, are they making comics right...
05.06.2022
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 41: Graphic Novels of the Year
Episode 41: In this episode, Cathy shares her graphic novels of the year! Cathy served as a judge for the LA Times Book Prize in the Graphic Novel/Comics category, and will be talking about the nominees and winner, as well...
04.01.2022
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 40: Research
Episode 40: In this episode, remus shares how to do your own research! Learn best research practices, what’s up with academic publishing, and where to get your information… for free heheh. For episode citation: https://comicarted.com/blog/2022/4/1/drawing-a-dialogue-episode-40
03.04.2022
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 39: Capitalism + Comics
Episode 39: Special guest Ross Hernandez join Cathy and remus to talk about how capitalism shapes the creation of comic books. We learn about different forms of labor, art’s relationship to capitalism, and how the comic book industry mashes these...
02.04.2022
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 38: Queer Theory
Episode 38: In this episode, remus and Cathy introduce and discuss queer theory. remus shares the history of queer theory and how it can be used as a framework for thinking about comics and beyond! For episode citation: https://comicarted.com/blog/2022/2/4/drawing-a-dialogue-episode-38
12.03.2021
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 37: Sports in School + the Rights of Trans Kids
Episode 37: Spurred by the recent media attention for the ban of her graphic novel The Breakaways, Cathy leads a discussion with remus on the value of sports in K-12 schools, House Bill 25 in Texas, and the rights of...
11.05.2021
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 36: Ableism + Accessibility
Episode 36: In this episode, remus and Cathy discuss how ableism manifests in comics culture and shapes all our lives. Definitions of accessibility versus accommodations are shared, as well as discussion about disability justice in comics and schools. For episode citation:...
10.01.2021
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 35: Fighting White Supremacy Culture
Episode 35: In this episode, Cathy and remus use the work of scholar Tema Okun to look at how white supremacy culture has imbedded itself in our everyday lives, and share how together we can antidote and circumvent its characteristics...
09.03.2021
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 34: Where We Are
Episode 34: Cathy + remus are back! They talk about teaching during the pandemic, and the past, present and exciting future for Drawing a Dialogue. Thank you for your patience! For episode citation: https://comicarted.com/blog/2021/9/3/drawing-a-dialogue-episode-34
10.23.2020
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 33: Our Comic Influences
Episode 33: Cathy + remus share their favorite comics that influenced their own art. Cathy talks about 2000s zines + indie comics. remus talks about manga + Homestuck. Additionally, they both touch upon the stresses of being an educator during...
07.10.2020
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 32: Propaganda
Episode 32: Cathy + remus talk about the way propaganda has historically shaped the dominate United States way of thinking. remus discusses the propagandistic role of comics and superheroes in proliferating violent vigilanteism. Cathy discusses how history was taught with...
06.03.2020
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 31: Abolish the Police
Episode 31: In this episode, Cathy + remus talk about police abolition, and what comics are capable (and NOT capable) of doing. Comics as an activist tool are discussed, as well as ways educators can work to eliminate police presence in...
05.08.2020
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 30: Distance Learning + Mutual Aid Pedagogy
Episode 30: In this episode, Cathy + remus document the teaching + learning transition to distance learning due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Public university, private school + public school approaches are discussed based on public statements + personal impact. remus presents...
04.03.2020
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 29: Libraries + YA Graphic Novels
Episode 29: Cathy + remus discuss the contemporary role libraries play in the popularity of young adult graphic novels. remus discusses how libraries have changed their attitudes toward comics, moving from crusaders to advocates. Cathy talks about the new graphic memoirs...
02.14.2020
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 28: Public Libraries
Episode 28: On this episode, Cathy + remus discuss public libraries in the United States. remus presents the history of libraries, their purpose for the public + the American Library Association (ALA). Cathy discusses the current services libraries offer the public,...
01.03.2020
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 27: Decolonizing Museums
Episode 27: Continuing from last episode, Cathy + remus further their discussion of the museum by examining decolonization efforts. remus offers real case studies of what museums are currently doing to address colonial pasts. Cathy shares lesson plans that complicate the...
12.13.2019
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 26: History of Art Museums + Museum Education
Episode 26: Cathy + remus discuss the history of the art museum + museum education. remus discusses museums as an Enlightenment era outgrowth, moving into the display of art in the museum + its purpose. Cathy talks about the history...
11.08.2019
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 25: Transmasculinity + Child Development
Episode 25: Cathy + remus talk about transmasculinity + gender development in children. remus discusses masculinity through two different trans memoir comics by Higu Rose + Victor Martins, placing the narratives into a new historical canon. Cathy shares the latest in...
09.13.2019
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 24: Rubrics + Grading
Episode 24: Cathy + remus talk about grading in schools + universities. What is the history of giving students grades? What is their purpose + pitfalls? Cathy + remus discuss how all grades are subjective, talk about different standards that can...
08.02.2019
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 23: Restorative / Transformative Justice
Episode 23: Cathy + e talk about Restorative / Transformative Justice practices + how they interact with comics, schools + communities. e defines RJ/TJ, why it’s important, + discusses ways to remove policing from our communities. Cathy talks about educational uses...
07.05.2019
Drawing a Dialogue Presents, Episode 3: Art + Social Justice Collectives with Priscilla Carrion
Priscilla Carrion is a visual artist, educator + member of many group collectives + non-profits in Providence with a focus on art + social justice. Priscilla discusses her history building community within collectives, starting out as a student + moving...
06.07.2019
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 22: YA Books + Readers
Episode 22: Cathy + e talk about Young Adult (YA) books + readers! e starts out by sharing the history of the YA genre, how books began to be marketed to an adolescent audience, + who is actually reading them....
05.03.2019
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 21: Labor + Capitalism in Comics
Episode 21: Happy May Day! Cathy + e talk about labor and comics. They begin by defining what capitalism and commodification is. e goes over the history of attempts by cartoonists to unionize, then Cathy discusses theory about why we should...
04.05.2019
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 20: Comics + Academia, Our Work
Episode 20: On Drawing a Dialogue’s 20th episode, Cathy + e share their personal histories as working cartoonists in academic settings. Cathy talks about her new graphic novel “The Breakaways,” and how her work as an artist + educator informed...
03.08.2019
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 19: GIRLS!
Episode 19: Cathy + e discuss GIRLS! e talks about the history of Grrrl zines, including Riot Grrrl, zine culture + canonization. Cathy discusses the history of the education of women and girls in the United States, the feminization of teaching,...
02.01.2019
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 18: Masculinity
Episode 18: In this episode, Cathy + e discuss the social role of masculinity. e presents the definitions of masculinity and its feminist origins, the theories of sociologist Raewyn Connell, + moves into the theory of today. Comics discussion moves beyond...
12.07.2018
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 17: Trans Memoir + School Climate
Episode 17: Cathy + e discuss how trans memoirists document their experiences, + have an in-depth analysis on the current school climate for trans students within the United States. e talks about the history of whose stories are categorized as autobiography,...
11.02.2018
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 16: Incarceration, the School-to-Prison Pipeline + Resistance
Episode 16: In this episode, Cathy + e discuss the history of incarceration, the school-to-prison pipeline, and how prison art + writing are tools of radical resistance. e discusses the development of mass incarceration, the history of prison writing, + how...
10.05.2018
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 15: Jackie Ormes, Her Comics + the Black Press
In this episode, Cathy + e create a biography for Jackie Ormes. Born in 1911, Ormes was a cartoonist, reporter, fashion designer and community organizer during an important century of American history. Cathy + e discuss the seminal role Ormes...
09.07.2018
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 14: Autism in Comics + Social-Emotional Learning
In this episode, Cathy + e explore how the multimodal experience of comics is ripe with possibilities for engaging with neurodiversity. e discusses disability theories applied to reading and creating comics. Cathy talks about the educational applications through Social-Emotional Learning. For...
07.06.2018
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 13: Fatphobia in Media + Body Image
Cathy + e discuss the history of fatphobia and how fat-negative bias was developed in North America. They talk about repercussions in the media + how it still affects us today, including how children develop their sense of self +...
06.01.2018
Drawing a Dialogue Presents, Episode 2: Zine Curator + Archivist Malana Krongelb
Malana Krongelb is the librarian at the Sarah Doyle Women’s Center and the founder and curator of Brown University’s first zine collection. Started in 2016, the collection focuses on sharing and preserving zines by marginalized creators and consists of titles...
05.11.2018
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 12: History of Racism + Physiognomy in Cartooning
In the longest episode yet, Cathy + e present research on how racism affected the development of the visual language of cartooning. Spanning the 1700s to today, this episode explores the history of art education, caricature and how-to-draw books, and...
04.06.2018
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 11: Jeffrey Catherine Jones + the Queer Underground
In this episode, Cathy + e look at the history of queer comics in the American underground and build a biography for the cartoonist + illustrator Jeffrey Catherine Jones. Queer erasure is examined while a history is looked at, researched,...
03.09.2018
Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 10: The Canon
In this episode, Cathy + e examine the art historical idea of “the canon.” They discuss definitions of the word, the history of the practice, canonization’s criticisms, and how comics are understood within the framework. For episode citation: https://comicarted.com/blog/2018/3/9/drawing-a-dialogue-episode-10

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Drawing a Dialogue episodes:

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 54: Teaching in a Comics MFA Program

Drawing a Dialogue Presents, Episode 6: Seosamh (Trans Cartoonists in the DIY Scene #3)

Drawing a Dialogue Presents, Episode 5: Sunmi (Trans Cartoonists in the DIY Scene #2)

Drawing a Dialogue Presents, Episode 4: Emma Jayne (Trans Cartoonists in the DIY Scene #1)

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 53: Introducing Our New Series: Trans Cartoonists in the DIY Scene

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 52: Accessibility at Conventions

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 51: Open Access Archives + SPX Recap

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 50: Movies About Cartoonists

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 49: Award Judging + Criticism

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 48: The Teacher Shortage

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 47: Comic Art Ed!

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 46: The PhD Process

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 45: Trans Representation in Comics

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 44: AIDS Activism + Comics

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 43: Boys Love Manga

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 42: Balance + Burnout

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 41: Graphic Novels of the Year

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 40: Research

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 39: Capitalism + Comics

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 38: Queer Theory

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 37: Sports in School + the Rights of Trans Kids

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 36: Ableism + Accessibility

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 35: Fighting White Supremacy Culture

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 34: Where We Are

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 33: Our Comic Influences

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 32: Propaganda

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 31: Abolish the Police

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 30: Distance Learning + Mutual Aid Pedagogy

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 29: Libraries + YA Graphic Novels

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 28: Public Libraries

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 27: Decolonizing Museums

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 26: History of Art Museums + Museum Education

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 25: Transmasculinity + Child Development

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 24: Rubrics + Grading

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 23: Restorative / Transformative Justice

Drawing a Dialogue Presents, Episode 3: Art + Social Justice Collectives with Priscilla Carrion

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 22: YA Books + Readers

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 21: Labor + Capitalism in Comics

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 20: Comics + Academia, Our Work

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 19: GIRLS!

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 18: Masculinity

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 17: Trans Memoir + School Climate

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 16: Incarceration, the School-to-Prison Pipeline + Resistance

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 15: Jackie Ormes, Her Comics + the Black Press

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 14: Autism in Comics + Social-Emotional Learning

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 13: Fatphobia in Media + Body Image

Drawing a Dialogue Presents, Episode 2: Zine Curator + Archivist Malana Krongelb

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 12: History of Racism + Physiognomy in Cartooning

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 11: Jeffrey Catherine Jones + the Queer Underground

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 10: The Canon

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