You know Driftglass from the Professional Left Podcast – proleftpod.com – with his wife and co-host Blue Gal. He's also a regular on our Wednesday shows, and one of the smartest podcasters around. Today we talked about the State of the Union and some of the reasons why too many Americans believe what happened last night is perfectly normal. And if you value independent media, make sure to support the Professional Left Podcast at patreon.com/proleftpod. Meantime, make sure to support this podcast at patreon.com/bobcescashow. Music by James Lee Stanley.

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