Our friends Brandon Butler and Nate "Shags" McLeod from the Driftwood Outdoors Podcast join us to talk about their podcast, how they met, their Missouri deer camp, poachers and outlaw culture, outdoor media, conservation funding in Missouri, Chronic Wasting Disease, and what they're looking forward to in 2021.

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Driftwood Outdoors with Brandon Butler and Nate "Shags" McLeod

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The great Mark Twain once wrote, “Buy land, they aren’t making it anymore,” but Mr. Twain was wrong! The Mississippi River and the state of Louisiana are working together to build tens of thousands of acres on the Louisiana coast. Louisiana’s Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority’s Chairman is Bren Haase. Chairman Haase is a passionate hunter and angler from Sportsman’s Paradise, and he joined us to talk about Louisiana’s coastal land loss crisis and how the state is battling that crisis for both people and wildlife.
Suggested Links:
https://coastal.la.gov/
https://midbasin.coastal.la.gov/
https://coastal.la.gov/our-plan/2023-coastal-master-plan/
https://www.vanishingparadise.org/blog/2022/8/creating-paradise-at-davis-pond

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They’re Building Land in Louisiana!

Aaron and Bill sit down with renowned deer expert, speaker, and author Jim Heffelfinger to discuss a wide-ranging set of topics focused around the status of mule deer. We expand on what is impacting mule deer health and abundance, CWD, what impacts antler growth, how habitat changes life histories of mule deer, and many other fascinating topics. We even throw in a good deer joke. Jim is the complete expert on mule deer and this is a discussion you don’t want to miss. 
Suggested Links: 
https://deernut.com/home
https://wafwa.org/wpdm-package/2023-range-wide-status-of-the-black-tailed-and-mule-deer/
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All things Mule Deer (and all deer) with Jim Heffelfinger

Bill and Aaron have a fun conversation about all things onX hunt app with Jared Larsen, the company’s Whitetail Marketing Manager. We talk about the advent and growth of the company, new features, things in the works, how they feel about the complaint that folks don’t have to put in the work to scout areas, the conservation work onX does, and many other interesting topics. We also take a few questions from listeners who will now receive a one-year elite membership. Jared is a fun and charismatic dude. You don’t want to miss this one. 
Suggested Links:
https://www.onxmaps.com/hunt/app
https://www.onxmaps.com/news
https://www.onxmaps.com/onx-access-initiatives
https://www.onxmaps.com/onx-access-initiatives/private-land-public-access
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Talking the Hottest Hunting app with Jared Larsen of onX

Lots of guests elicit laughter and also a few tugs at the heartstrings. Laughter is pretty easy, but it’s rare a guest has both Aaron and Bill holding back tears in between the laughs, but Joey Monteleone did just that. From working hard in the inner city as a child of immigrants to traveling North America lecturing, writing and filming television shows about fishing, Monteleone has managed to live the life so many of us dream while hopefully watching a bobber during our youth. Over 50,000 (more than 1500 over five pounds) bass later, Joey’s focus on simplifying tackle and techniques is awesome information for both beginner and veteran fishermen. 
Suggested Links:
https://hub.jacksonkayak.com/team-jk/kayak-fishing-factory-team/joey-monteleone/
https://www.amazon.com/ILL-BE-TENNESSEAN-YA-History/dp/1689845139
https://www.amazon.com/60-Seasons-fishing-Joey-Monteleone/dp/1952474922
https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Storms-CentAnni-Joey-Monteleone/dp/1957344202/ref=sr_1_1?crid=15Q7IQIDO5MUD&keywords=the+secret+of+storms+joey+monteleone&qid=1692194518&s=digital-text&sprefix=the+secret+of+storms+joey+monteleone%2Cdigital-text%2C106&sr=1-1-catcorr
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Living Life and Catching Fish with Hard Work and Common Sense

Aaron sits down with Chris Tymeson of Safari Club International while at the Western Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies conference. They discuss what SCI is, what type of policy SCI works on, the work SCI does to defend hunting and what that currently looks like across the US. Aaron and Chris also discuss the negative impacts to wildlife management if/when attempts to degrade or reduce hunting opportunities become a reality.
Suggested Link: https://safariclub.org/
Show Notes:
1:29 - Aaron shares a little background on SCI and his connection with Chris.
4:35 - Chris shares his aim when attending conferences around the country.
5:54 - Chris has a background in litigation. He shares some of his legal background and experience.
7:17 - "What's the craziest thing that came across your desk?" Chris shares what he can on a podcast.
8:44 - SCI is a 501 C4 which also has a 501 C3 advocacy side. Chris talks about how SCI is structured and the type of work they do around the world.
12:15 - Defending the federal government more often than not? Chris unpacks this and then talks about his state to state work.
16:30 - Chris deals with everything from rabbits to rhinos.
21:01 - Short break for a message from our partner podcast, Artemis Sportswomen. Show notes are not available after this stage due to inserted ads from our hosting platform.
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Driftwood Outdoors with Brandon Butler and Nate "Shags" McLeod

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