In the original first episode of After Hours (we released the episode on Anti-Blackness and White Allyship first due to the circumstances of the times), Celtic and FTHRS engage in a drunken exploration of the concept of styles in dance, hijacking styles and moves for clout, gatekeepers vs innovators, keeping dance styles relevant, the comparisons between dance styles and martial arts, the fallacy of creating styles by mixing styles, surpassing thresholds in your training, understanding styles in the context of history, and the virtues of creating garbage in your journey of learning. 

In this episode Celtic sits down to coffee with founder and executive director of the Ladies of Hip-Hop Festival, Michele Byrd-Mcphee, as they discuss the benefits of yoga, being the daughter of a powerful woman, the legacy of Marjory Smarth, appropriation of street dance and Black culture, the migration of Black dance forms, her greatest sacrifice for the dream of Ladies of Hip Hop, the impossible decisions that women in the dance world make, embodying the unique experience of blackness in higher education, the challenges of adapting Ladies of Hip-Hop for an online format, Black Lives Matter, experiencing racism in the present moment, celebrating the contributions of women to the culture, and the importance of knowing your worth. Celtic gets an exciting new job offer. To see and support the movement: https://www.ladiesofhiphopfestival.com/ | 

In order to help Michele during this time of social and economic upheaval, please consider making a donation of any size to: Venmo: @ladiesofhiphop; PayPal: PayPal.me/ladiesofhiphop

In this episode, Celtic shares a drink with X-Savior Thomas as they discuss his journey as a gay black man in today's America, embodying his identity in childhood, creating his own safe space, dance as therapy, finding his place in queer dancing, the challenge in labelling himself, the damage of homophobia in the dance world, dismantling male privilege and confronting male fragility, code switching, the exhaustion and anger of activism, and being let down by allies. Celtic is, apparently, out here doing the best he can despite being hungover. 

In order to help support X-Savior during this time of social and economic upheaval, please consider making a donation of any size to : Cash App: $DeadendFamAZ

In this first session of After Hours, Celtic and FTHRS discuss the racial dynamics of our country and of the dance world. In the interest of providing our listeners with more tools to deepen their education and further their understanding, we present the following list of podcasts that we hope you will check out and learn from:

Caleaf Sellers aka "Big Leaf" sits down to tea with Celtic as we discuss his personal health and immunity regimen, inspiring and being inspired by the younger generations, pressing pause during the pandemic, observing the holy month of Ramadan, taking time as a beginner, surpassing the limits of movement, the New York Club scene of the 80’s and 90’s, being the Tom Brady of Hip-Hop Dance, the final days of Juste Debout, speaking about oppression and the politics of protest, and witnessing the birth of his son. Celtic is honored to be having the discussion.

In order to help support Caleaf during this time of social and economic upheaval, please consider making a donation of any size to: PayPal: [email protected]

To find Caleaf’s new release: https://store.catchtheghostrecords.com/

Celtic sits down with fellow Creation Global member Donnetta "LilBit" Jackson as she opens up about the tragic accident that changed the course of her early years, her connection to the doctors and masters who came before her in her tap dance lineage, performing with the FootworKingz, representing women in Chicago Footwork, sharing her voice with the public, dealing with police brutality and harassment, Footworking with Missy Elliot, and being at home on the stage. Celtic accidentally says "white people of color", and as a result considers drinking less alcohol while conducting interviews.

To watch LilBit's performance with Missy Elliot at the 2019 VMAs: https://youtu.be/i9I-ut1TXoA?t=307

In order to help support LilBit during this time of social and economic upheaval, please consider making a donation of any size to: Venmo: Donnetta-lilbit-Jackson ; Cash app: dancealilbit

In this deeply spiritual episode, Celtic shares a cup of coffee with the indubitable Professor Lock as they discuss the origin of his dance name, the benefits of learning chicago footwork, making it in the commercial dance world, keeping the style of Locking fresh for the next generation, learning from the older generation, equating the groove of dance with the groove of life, surrendering to the music, training during the pandemic, being who you are and what you need, and why dancers aren’t living up to their potential. Celtic feels his soul fly. 

If you’d like to help support Professor Lock during this time of economic upheaval, please consider making a donation of any size at: https://www.paypal.me/bricejohnson123

To watch Professor Lock's TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_ylgj01WxE&feature=share

In this special family reunion episode, famed Chicago Footwork Ambassador King Charles Parks IV sits down with Celtic to discuss his dance inspirations, winning King of the Circle, Chicago juke parties, the evolution of Chicago Footwork, diving deep into culture through travel, finding strength through other people, creating with and learning from his students, advice for beginners of any style, taking your time in dance and Life, and his most valuable loss. Celtic gets foolish, and Creation Global is repped to the fullest.

To help support King Charles during this time of economic upheaval, please consider making a donation of any size to: 1) Venmo:@kingcharles_____; 2) PayPal: [email protected]; 3) CashApp: $kingcharlesfootwork

To listen to and purchase music from Charles Parks III, visit: http://charlesparksiiibandcamp.com

In this episode, Celtic shares a beer with professional dancer and choreographer Nubian Néné as she explains the cultural tension between growing up Haitian and Canadian, racism in Canada, hearing and understanding truth at a young age, the origin of Essence the Waacker, learning how to open up and become vulnerable, enriching the dance community through the Nefer Global Movement, sexual misconduct in the dance scene, creating space to elevate women and strengthen feminine energy, and what it means to experience a “Néné Day”. Celtic says "chars" instead of "cheers" at the end and dies internally. 

To help support Néné during this time of economic upheaval, please consider making a donation of any size to: 1) Venmo @NubianNene ; 2) Paypal [email protected]

To watch the Black video from Nefer Global Movement: https://www.instagram.com/p/BuykNcVgXwM/?igshid=cjzovf8gglzq

If you have experienced or are struggling with the effects of sexual harassment, misconduct, or assault within the dance community or elsewhere and need help finding support or advocacy, call 800.656.HOPE (4673) to speak to a trained professional, or visit rainn.org

To check out Néné's previous interview on The Good Foot Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7t1ehGh87j8iwcuxUHEtsZ?si=ykDvGYpjTSuKC2Rl7wBHRw