Drum History

Bill is the Music Director on Sesame Street and shares tons of great information on the famous drummers that have played on the show like Questlove, Anderson Paak, Evelyn Glennie, and more - plus we discuss Buddy RIch and his performance with with Animal on The Muppets in the 80's. Bill talks about how it works when a Muppet plays the drums and how it is synced up with a real drummer, and also the importance of music and rhythm on Sesame Street and all kids programming. Bill has worked on many cool things outside of the muppets including Hamilton, Tick Tick Boom, In the Heights, and he co-hosts a podcast with Questlove called "Questlove Supreme"

Check out BIll's website here: https://www.popmusicmisery.com/

and listen to Questlove Supreme here: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-questlove-supreme-53194211/

Ronn discusses his new acquisition of the classic Canadian brand, Milestone Percussion! Milestone was founded in the 1970's by Michael Clapham, and became a beloved brand of Fiberglass drums that hold a special place in many drummers hearts. Now, in 2022, Ronn has brought the original brand back to life and is relaunching with the extreme attention to detail that we have all come to expect from all Dunnett products. Ron doesn't spare any details of what he thinks went wrong with the original run of the company and what he is doing to improve and make it a long lasting Canadian brand. We also learn about Ronn's work process and great info on all of his brands - Dunnett Classic Drums, George Way Drums, and now Milestone Percussion.

Keep up with Ronn on social media and at https://www.dunnett.com/

Enjoy this episode and check out Ronn's bonus episode at www.patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

Randy takes us through the decades of rare finishes including Leedy's "Autographs of the Stars", Ludwig's "Top Hat and Cain", all sorts of Pearl and Oyster finishes, and through the psychedelic 60 and 70's with Citrus Mod, Psych Red, and Mod Orange. Randy is a longtime collector and restorer of vintage drums and shares stories of many kits that have come through his hands, and discusses many ultra rare kits that he has seen and learned about in the vintage community.

Be sure to find Randy at the Chicago Drum Show and find him on Facebook to get in touch.

Watch this video interview on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/xkgrq4BqMM4

Enjoy

Richard King has been collecting and dealing with high end drums since the 1980's, which has led him to be a dealer and broker for celebrities and also provided drum kits for a number of films. He has a very long running business that specializes in rare and hard to find drum hardware that he has meticulously cleaned, categorized and ready to sell out of his house. Richard shares information on his background on collecting, but also the vintage drum industry and drum shows as a whole. He has built up a sparkling reputation on eBay and to other dealers and collectors around the world so tune in if you want to hear Richards secrets to have a long career in vintage drums!

Here is Richard eBay store where you can keep up with what he has for sale: https://www.ebay.com/str/kingsmusic

Enjoy!

Dr. John Owens shares the vibrant lineage of street drumming, the lives of urban percussionists, and the rhythms that make it all happen! He has a history as a street drummer in Washington DC, a performer at Disney, and a member of the US Army Band. He is the author of "Street Drumming: The People, History, and Grooves" which is a soup to nuts guide on everything there is to know about Street Drumming!

You can find his book for sale here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1954270135/ref=sr_1_2

Here is John's website: https://www.www.johnowensdrums.com

Bill Ryder is a longtime listener of the podcast that decided to do extensive research on Ludwig drumheads and the important role that they played in the history of modern plastic drumheads and present it on the podcast. Ludwig's crimped style of drumhead was unique and different from how Remo and Evans connected Mylar to the flesh hoop with a resin epoxy and how they arrived at the use of Mylar is an huge part of drumhead history. The crimped style was quickly stolen by Slingerland which may be the catalyst that started the legendary feud between Slingerland and Ludwig. Bill got help from Jim Catalano (former Ludwig dir. of Marketing) and Herbie May (Remo R&D Director) on this episode which helped create a very thoroughly researched and fun episode.

Here are the other Drumhead related episodes that I mentioned:

History of Remo with Herbie May - https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-26-the-history-of-remo-drumheads-with-herbie-may

A Look at Animal Skin Drumheads with Jeff Stern - https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-115-a-look-at-animal-skin-drumheads-with-jeff-stern

The History of Drumheads with Ben O'bryon Smith - https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-15-the-history-of-drumheads-with-ben-o-brien-smith

Check out Bills written version of this story on my site:

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-145-ludwigs-role-in-the-development-of-plastic-drumheads-with-bill-ryder

Louis Bernstein not only had a large, high-end drum collection but he also had a true passion for hunting down many of the original famous drum films and tapes that we all enjoy on YouTube today - but Louis was faced with the challenge of moving to a Condo in 2013 and sell off the majority of his collection. He shares the process of how downsizing a collection of 140+ snares, 4 kits, countless rare tapes, Buddy Rich Memorabilia, and all sorts of other things worked and what he learned from the process.

Louis also did a really cool Patreon bonus video episode where he shows us his Buddy Rich Big Band original music stand, and his Buddy Rich owned Canister throne. Check it out at patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

Daniel is a professor at the Federal University of São Carlos in Brazil, along with being a contributor to "The Cambridge Companion to the Drum Kit". Daniels history for this episode goes back to 1917 in Brazil and takes us through the amazing history of drum sets, drumming styles, and iconic drummers which has many parallels to the American and European histories we usually hear on the show - but this is uniquely Brazilian!

• Here is a link to Daniels website: https://danielgohn.wixsite.com/website

• A Link to my book: https://hudsonmusic.com/product/no-mundo-da-bateria/

• Link to the Cambridge book: https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/cambridge-

companion-to-the-drum-kit/3883F371E040EC3681646F170E4FA078

Here is a resource of names that Daniel mentioned in this episode that he provided to help English speakers easily find the players and records easily:

- Luciano Perrone (father of Brazilian drumming)

- first drum solo in the song Faceira (1931)

- 50 years partnership with Radamés Gnatalli

- Recording of the song Aquarela do Brasil in 1939

- Oscar Bolão: author of “Batuque is a privilege”

- Edison Machado – creator of samba no prato

- Or was Hildofredo Correa?

- Antonio Carlos Jobim (record in 1963): The composer of Desafinado, plays

and the only record of Edison Machado as a leader: É Samba novo (1963)

- Milton Banana played in the João Gilberto record Chega de Saudade (1959). He also

played in Getz / Gilberto (1963)

- Dom Um Romão played in the Jobim / Sinatra record (1967)

- Airto Moreira played with Sambalanço Trio and Sambrasa Trio, then in Quarteto

Novo (1967)

- When discussing recording technologies, I mentioned the drummer Wilson das Neves

and suggested listening to his work with Chico Buarque

- Modern players: Marcio Bahia, Nenê, Zé Eduardo Nazário, Celso de Almeida, Ramon

Montagner, Edu Ribeiro, Kiko Freitas

- I mentioned Hermeto Pascoal and Egberto Gismonti as important references

Don Lombardi is the founder of DW Drums and he shares the full story of this legendary American drum brand. Drum Workshop has amazing origins in Don's garage where he recycled the name from his drum teaching business and turned his garage into a workshop where he and his student, John Good, created canister thrones that could raise and lower - and the rest is history! I learned so much about the Camco story, the 5000 pedal, and everything I never knew about DW and Don's background as a professional drummers.

DW's website: http://www.dwdrums.com/

Drum Channel YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/drumchannel

Masters of Resonance documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzt-PaR0XUw&t=67s

Barry James was a student of George Lawrence Stone in the 1950's and is continuing on his teachings to this day by releasing two new books that he worked on with Joe Morello that are finally ready to be released! Barry's new book's are called "Counting the Exercises in Stick Control" which supplements "Stick Control" and teaches how to read it the way Stone originally intended, and the second is "Future Rudiments" which is a concept that Stone created towards the end of his life. Barry is a wealth of knowledge and is working very hard to teach the Stone method at its truest form!

Contact Barry to get a copy of either book before the Kindle release by emailing [email protected] or calling him at (321) 297-3042, and also Barry is an a great teacher who I highly recommend for remote lessons.

Here is a link to Barrys original episode on the podcast: https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-52-legendary-teachers-george-l-stone-with-barry-james