Drum History

Pat Petrillo shares tons of great info including what it is like to be featured on the cover of Modern Drummer, his Instagram series about breaking down actual sticking of Ringo's parts, and we discuss his great new album, "The Power Station Sessions". Pat also gives us a history lesson on the nuances and differences between R&B and Funk drumming and we discuss some of the great products that he has developed for our industry over the years!

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This episode is a deep dive into the nuances of collecting Vintage Paiste Cymbals with Dan Garza, a die hard Paiste enthusiast and the moderator of the Paiste section on Cymbal.Wiki. We cover everything from the different alloys that are used in production, the variations in serial numbers, production techniques, and all the cymbal lines up to the 70's (that will continue on in part 2). Dan also talks a lot about what makes Paiste so special and different from the other major cymbal manufacturers and why some lines have become so extremely valuable over the years. Stay tune for Part 2!

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Dan's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV5P6pbrDcLUXs4y3KSK8EA

Paiste Cymbals

https://www.facebook.com/paistecompany

Paiste Cymbals New and Vintage

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Paiste vintage cymbals

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Paiste Sound Creation & SC ND & FO 602

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Paiste 2002

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Paiste Giant Beats, Dixies, 4o4s, Stambuls, Ludwig Standards

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Paiste 505

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Paiste 3000 Cymbals and Hihats

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kleinanzeigen Ebay; https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-paiste/k0

German Ebay: https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=paiste&_sacat=0&LH_ItemCondition=4&Marke=Paiste&_dcat=41441&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=1

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Anthony has been on a mission to discover as much as he can on the history of the legendary Covington era of Rogers Drums! Anthony and his Rogers friends are using state of the art techniques to test the species of each ply on various shells to determine the make up of the shells, and he is utilizing the research that the generation before him has compiled. This has allowed him to put together a comprehensive look at the Rogers drums that were made in the small town of Covington, Ohio between 1954 and 1968. This small town was producing some of the finest drums in the world at this point and was beloved by some of the greatest players in the world such as Buddy Rich and Louie Bellson!

Here is a link to the episode about the history of Rogers Drums with Po Shy and Jeff Burke : https://youtu.be/93bfAD5w7Vo

Here is Anthonys great Rogers YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@rogersdrumvideos

and The Rogers Facebook Groups -

Rogers Drums USA: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1665871023670039

Covington Drummers: https://www.facebook.com/groups/445087259289998

Rogers Drums - Buy and Sell: https://www.facebook.com/groups/440357052700555

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Vincent gives us a deep dive into the history of the American made Zildjian Cymbals from 1929 up through the 1990s. We talk about all the various stamps through he generations that can be used to identify vintage A. Zildjian cymbals, along with notes on the hammering, lathing, and bell size that can help you determine collectibility and value of a vintage Zildjian cymbal. Vincent shares his 9 step process of determining if a cymbal is a good purchase which includes everything from the shape of the cymbal to the source you purchase it from, and everything in between.

We touch a little bit on the Turkish made K. Zildjians, but more info will come on that down the road!

Here is a link to the full Zildjian history episode with Paul Francis: https://youtu.be/i0l-Vw6W1UY

Here are some helpful guides to date your cymbals:

https://black.net.nz/avedis/avedis-by-years.html

https://robscott.net/cymbals/a-zildjian/

https://www.hidehitters.com/cymbals/Zildjianstamps/timeline.html

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Enjoy this classic episode from 2020! We are lead to believe that the bass drum pedal was invented in the USA, and that the drum set as we know it today was first created in the states - but Fritz shares examples that show many revolutionary drum inventions that were first created in Europe. We also discuss brands like Sonor, Trixon, Paiste, plus drumming and drum building in communist countries and many other great facts and stories along the way.

Fritz is a veteran in the drum industry and has owned and operated DrumHouse Freiberg since 2001 in Germany. He brings a very unique knowledge base to the show and shares lots of information that I have never heard anywhere else. Check out the DrumHouse here: https://www.drumhouse.com/

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(Part 3) Paul Wells is a Professor of Jazz Drums at Juilliard and he is also a fanatical fan of Neil Peart and his drum sets. This is part 3 of a 3 part series that covers all of the drums, cymbals, hardware, heads, and percussion that helped Neil Peart be one of the best drummers in history. This episode covers Neil's switch to DW drums, his work with Freddie Gruber, his switching to Roland V-Drums and the many iconic kits that were from the last part of his career!

I hope you guys like Part 3 about Neil Peart's drums!

Here is Paul's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@paulwells2227

and find him on social media at @paulwellsdrums

Check out these episodes on YouTube here:

Watch Part 1 here: https://youtu.be/IF9ucbt7VHI

Part 2: https://youtu.be/hsSU_GjbdLQ

Part 3: https://youtu.be/iRhASmUGQSY

RIP to The Professor ❤️

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Rob Birenbaum is the founder of Drum Headquarters in St. Louis, MO and HQ Percussion, which famously produced the iconic RealFeel practice pads and Sound Off drum mute pads. This is a great story of how Rob started as a salesman/drum teacher at a local Missouri drum shop and took that knowledge and created his own shop which became a dominate force in his area, and became the top Tama dealer in the state in the 1980's. Rob then took advantage of a business deal that made him the owner of what became RealFeel practice pads. It was not an easy road though, Rob had to spend lots of money and time to get the pad dialed in to be what became the famous octagonal pad. He later sold the company to D'Addario and learned many valuable lessons about business.

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(Part 2) Paul Wells is a Professor of Jazz Drums at Juilliard and he is also a fanatical fan of Neil Peart and his drum sets. This is part 2 of a 3 part series that covers all of the drums, cymbals, hardware, heads, and percussion that helped Neil Peart be one of the best drummers in history. This episode covers Neil's introduction to electronic drums that he used with the Tama Candy Apple Red Kit and throughout his career, his love of samples, his evolving Ludwig white, blue, and black kits, and info on his personal small Gretsch kit he used at home - and much more!

I hope you guys like Part 2 about Neil Peart's drums - Stay tuned for Part 3.

Here is Paul's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@paulwells2227

and find him on social media at @paulwellsdrums

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Paul Wells is a Professor of Jazz Drums at Juilliard and he is also a fanatical fan of Neil Peart and his drum sets. This is part 1 of a 3 part series that covers all of the drums, cymbals, hardware, heads, and percussion that helped Neil Peart be one of the best drummers in history. This episode covers Neil's very first drum set as a child, up through his iconic Candy Apple Red Tama kit that became famous as a banner hanging on drummers walls around the world.

I hope you guys like this mega deep dive into Neil Peart's drums!

Here is Paul's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@paulwells2227

and find him on social media at @paulwellsdrums

RIP to The Professor ❤️

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The list of legendary drummers that played with the late Wayne Shorter is absolutely incredible. Mark Griffith takes us through each album and stage in Waynes career and which iconic drummer was involved at any given time. Just to name a few, he played with people such as Art Blakey, Tony Williams, Jack DeJohnette, Elvin Jones, Ndugu Chancler, Peter Erskine, Bryan Blade, Jeff Porcaro and that is just barely scratching the surface. Mark is the Editor in Chief and Director of Content/Education for Modern Drummer and he has tons of great first hand experiences with many of these drummers who all held Wayne Shorter in the highest regard possible.

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