We talk about our sleep habits, Nate being the unofficial Warped Tour Barista, how we spent our per diems on tour, Reed's getting back in the drum saddle for some shows, we discuss modern heavy music, Lou comes in hot, and we end it kinda cold with a special message for moms. Happy Mother's Day!

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We chat with our favorite Canadian guitarist maybe a little too much about his band, C*nter, but then we dive more into his musical journey, from forming Moneen (turns out we’ve been mispronouncing it for years), going on a hiatus, and now writing new songs (exclusive!), Kenny explains how Say Anything drove him to drink, Reed and Kenny reminisce over their Grand Canyon adventure and playing together in Say Anything, we get nerdy talking about drums, Kenny’s experience drum teching, and we give Ringo the credit that he deserves, Kenny has to dial back the theatrics while playing in Dashboard Confessional, What Is Lug? (Trademark pending), and then we just get loopy at the end and don’t know how to say goodbye to each other.

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We talk to Nate about re-recording drums for Anberlin's "Never Take Friendship Personal" 20 years later, we discuss being present, the business of merch, and we get Lou back to close with "A Lil Lou'll Do Ya."

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Another short one! This time we gain Nate but lose Lou, Nate shares his magical moment with Tyler the Creator in San Diego, and we take voicemails and contemplate joining drum circles after hearing a special message from Ben's sister.

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We bond with Connor over being Floridians, Nick Cannon is solely responsible for Connor’s drumming career, he explains the dynamics of playing in Beartooth and with pyro, getting drum lessons from Aaron Gillespie of Underoath, thriving on drum solos, his Three Levels of On-Stage Mistakes (copyright pending), why you only need one type of crash cymbal, and regrettably having a 20” floor tom.

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We catch Nate for a couple minutes while he's on tour and then we lose him to poor reception (sponsored by a telecom provider?), Ben and Reed panic and bring in Lou to keep the energy up, and then chaos ensues.

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Another singer! We talk to Adam about being a gearhead, his prized Wurlitzer collection, implementing vocal pedals, moving from North Carolina to join Taking Back Sunday as their bassist(!), finding confidence in becoming the lead singer, Nate thought Adam was cool AF with a shaved head and cigarette, Adam discusses making music with Ben in Fucking Whatever and the creative freedom that side projects can bring, he talks about Fred Mascherino joining Taking Back Sunday on stage for the first time in 17 years, and we consider staging group cry sessions.

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Buckle up! We share plenty of stories about the beloved band van, we answer listener voicemails, Lou delivers with an extended "A Lil' Lou'll Do Ya" segment on why we should go on a cruise and buy Everclear merch out of pity, and Lou and Ben recount their magical evening with Eddie Vedder.

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Our first metal drummer! We go deep with Matt to discuss his home practice space, drum teaching and his new Double Bass Master Class (coming soon!), Nate and Reed bond with Matt about being homeschoolers and share stories about when they met him, Matt shares his childhood epiphany about playing drums, his method for removing mental blocks, writing drum parts and recording, he describes his signature Zildjian blast bell, playing double bass at church, growing up on a farm, and he shares his perspective in watching Nate impale his eye with a drumstick live.

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We look back at our respective catalogues and pick the songs/drum parts we are proud of, we consider self-editing and self-awareness, Reed talks about being a competitive gymnast, the pressure of performing solo, and how it can relate to drumming, we fear playing drum parts not written by drummers, we consider the endless hustle of the music industry, and we close with "A Lil' Lou'll Do Ya."

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