We're back after some scheduling SNAFUs and open with some tennis talk, but do not fret - we do talk eventually talk about drums thanks to a listener calling in with a question. We also hit on click tracks, Nate needs new cymbals, and we confess our in-flight preferences and bring Lou in for his take.

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We decide that everyone needed our opinions on AI, conspiracies, and M. Night Shyamalan movies, then we talk to Lou plus a special guest and learn that inverted paradiddles are real.

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We're lovin' it! After we issue an apology to Mike (Mark?), we chat with him about finding Food On Tour, his go-to McDonald's order, landing work as a drummer in the age of social media, the new Say Anything album, Mike and Nate have both been replaced by Travis Barker, Mike names the source of his anxiety as a professional drummer, and we name albums and drummers that influenced us.

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We talk about drumming with accessories, drumming shirtless, and the struggle of playing backline kits/gear, Lou tells us what he looks for in a drummer and shares what he learned from the great Steve Albini, and now Ben has to apologize to Mike Robinson.

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Rise and shine! We catch Reed at 5am from San Francisco, we give props to Guy Fieri and all things Flavortown, we talk about the struggles and persecution of wearing tight jeans in the late 90s and early 2000s, staying grounded in the internet age, and then we chat with Lou about wood allergies and hanging out with people you don’t like.

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We talk about our sleep habits, Nate being the unofficial Warped Tour Barista, how we spent our per diems on tour, Reed's getting back in the drum saddle for some shows, we discuss modern heavy music, Lou comes in hot, and we end it kinda cold with a special message for moms. Happy Mother's Day!

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We chat with our favorite Canadian guitarist maybe a little too much about his band, C*nter, but then we dive more into his musical journey, from forming Moneen (turns out we’ve been mispronouncing it for years), going on a hiatus, and now writing new songs (exclusive!), Kenny explains how Say Anything drove him to drink, Reed and Kenny reminisce over their Grand Canyon adventure and playing together in Say Anything, we get nerdy talking about drums, Kenny’s experience drum teching, and we give Ringo the credit that he deserves, Kenny has to dial back the theatrics while playing in Dashboard Confessional, What Is Lug? (Trademark pending), and then we just get loopy at the end and don’t know how to say goodbye to each other.

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We talk to Nate about re-recording drums for Anberlin's "Never Take Friendship Personal" 20 years later, we discuss being present, the business of merch, and we get Lou back to close with "A Lil Lou'll Do Ya."

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Another short one! This time we gain Nate but lose Lou, Nate shares his magical moment with Tyler the Creator in San Diego, and we take voicemails and contemplate joining drum circles after hearing a special message from Ben's sister.

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We bond with Connor over being Floridians, Nick Cannon is solely responsible for Connor’s drumming career, he explains the dynamics of playing in Beartooth and with pyro, getting drum lessons from Aaron Gillespie of Underoath, thriving on drum solos, his Three Levels of On-Stage Mistakes (copyright pending), why you only need one type of crash cymbal, and regrettably having a 20” floor tom.

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